OTTOMAN NEWLY MADE SWORD????
 

HI EVERYONE,.
RECENTLY THIS SWORD WAS SOLD AT A REDICULOUS HIGH PRICE.
TO MY EYES THIS IS A FAKE ONE.NEWLY MADE KOFTGHARI WORK AND A NEW BLADE.
PLEASE SHARE YOUR OPINIONS.

AGREE,LOOKS FAKE TO ME AND CONDITION IS AS IF IT WAS NEVER USED

Yep and the central spine in the middle of the blade or the untouched gold goftari are more than suspicious...

I agree with Ilias' and others. besides what's mentioned, the blade shows signs of "unnatural"aging.

I do think the hilt and crossguard are possibly old. They have put the crossguard on upside down which is fairly ridiculous and then had to cut into the upper side of the guard to allow the blade to fit. It's hardly important in the context. Why fakers would use such a uniquely strange blade is fairly silly. The quality of the goldwork is slightly worrying though, it could almost be right apart from all the other mistakes

Another good catch, Stefan
There are more "mistakes" that show retrofit. yes, the coftgari is good quality, but not ususual nor unseen before.

I agree with all of you.
The thing that worried me most is the kofghari work and espesially the very nice detail at the cartoush.At a better blade I agree with Stefan would be difficult to say that it is not old.
the handle looks like the one that used to have the Turkish officer swords end of 19th c. but with different crossguard.

This one also is a very nice faked example that it was sold recently at high price at a known Auction house.Possibly there is a lot of people doing this work(fakes) and very succesfully I must say.
The handle at this one looks right but the blade doesnt.

I would not be surprised if some of this work is coming out of Rajastan. There are blades in Indian styles coming from there that are obviously new but the gold koftgari is of high quality. Some of these knives and swords are presented on eBay as newly made, but many are not (or it is ambiguous when they were made). The fraudulent examples are getting better. :mad:

Ian.

well - as no one else will bite the bullet on this one... To me this looks like an authentic hilt circa 1700 Hungarian-Ottoman, and the blade shape is also the right style for the hilt. The weird decoration to the top of the blade doesn't look right but this needs to be examined closely whether it is overlaid, inlaid, painted on with gold marker pen - incidentally a modern gilding 'technique' that is turning up more and more. The dragon heads are rather cartoon-like and I notice areas of the inside of the jaws are not tarnished as you would expect but maybe well cleaned. Tricky one, needs close examination however overall something is fishy. Without the dodgy looking goldwork to the blade I doubt this sword would be questioned.