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apolaki 10th August 2020 04:37 PM

Regarding resin keris hilts
 
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Can anyone tell me more about this form of keris hilt? It has a more abstract form but with intricate style in carving or molding because it looks to be made of resin as opposed to wood, bone or other natural material. What is the history of resin use in keris hilt production. I imagine it is one way to tell it is more contemporary manufacture or pinpoint to perhaps a particular decade when resin was being used. Thanks again for all your insight!

apolaki 13th August 2020 04:32 AM

Can anyone share info about this hilt or any links to discussion about the style? Thanks!

Marcokeris 13th August 2020 08:46 AM

in my experience in Indonesia, resin hilts are sometimes offered by dishonest or comical sellers as if they were made of horn ...or even ivory. Other times resin hilts are offered from honest sellers like resin and in this case they are cheap. About the style.... IMO it could be from Madura

apolaki 13th August 2020 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcokeris
in my experience in Indonesia, resin hilts are sometimes offered by dishonest or comical sellers as if they were made of horn ...or even ivory. Other times resin hilts are offered from honest sellers like resin and in this case they are cheap. About the style.... IMO it could be from Madura

Thanks Marco! Is there a particular name for this style of hilt like there are for others like Donoriko?

Sajen 14th August 2020 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by apolaki
Thanks Marco! Is there a particular name for this style of hilt like there are for others like Donoriko?

I don't know if this style have a special name but it's a common form, here some of my examples: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...&postcount=117 & http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...&postcount=127

And it's not a pure Madura hilt, it's also common at the North coast. Some call them janggelan.:shrug:

Regards,
Detlef

David 14th August 2020 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen
And it's not a pure Madura hilt, it's also common at the North coast. Some call them janggelan.:shrug:

I don't think i'd call this style janggelan. Jean categorizes them separately in his recent hilt book, though only identifies them as "Floral Style" from Madura.

Sajen 14th August 2020 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by David
I don't think i'd call this style janggelan. Jean categorizes them separately in his recent hilt book, though only identifies them as "Floral Style" from Madura.

I am also not David but have heard this name for this hilt style in Indonesia, see also this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=madura and special this post from Alan: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...&postcount=121

Regards,
Detlef


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