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Marcus 26th October 2014 11:42 PM

Indonesian jambiya
 
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Artzi of Oriental Arms described this as:
“This Indonesian dagger in the style of an Arab Jambiya is likely to have come from Sumatra or Mentawi islands. This style of dagger is sometimes referred to as a Beladau.”


Comments?

Guesses on whether it would have been made for a native or someone originally from Arabia?

Guesses on age?

Marcus

Sajen 27th October 2014 09:23 AM

Hello Marcus,

I've seen this handle style by blades from the lesser Sunda islands like Lombok and Sumbawa. :shrug: I doubt that it is a Mentawai dagger.

Regards,
Detlef

A. G. Maisey 27th October 2014 01:21 PM

Jambiyo are known in Indonesia, I have two of them, one quite small and rather rough, the other large and of fine quality.

The small one is probably from Sumatera, the large one probably from Jawa.

Marcus 27th October 2014 01:41 PM

blades?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sajen

I've seen this handle style by blades from the lesser Sunda islands like Lombok and Sumbawa....

With what style of blade?

Sajen 27th October 2014 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus
With what style of blade?

I've seen this sort of hilt with short pedang blades. I have a hilt in similar style in my collection but without blade. Will post some pictures later.

Regards,
Detlef

Sajen 27th October 2014 06:53 PM

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Here my handle, approx. 14 cm high.

Marcus 27th October 2014 08:08 PM

blade vs hilt
 
I see the similarity in the hilt of course, but to me the interesting question is whether the jambiya-like blade is indicative of a cross cultural effect.

blue lander 27th October 2014 08:38 PM

I recently saw a similar jambiya but I can't post the URL because its ongoing. It's completely unadorned and undecorated. The scabbard looks like someone cut a cows horn lengthwise and the hilt is likewise just a horn knob. The blade is jambiya shaped but it has no "spine".

Marcus 27th October 2014 08:48 PM

Similar?
 
More differences than similarities in my opinion. BTW the scabbard on mine is wood.

Marcus 17th January 2016 07:42 PM

Sumbawa
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sajen
Hello Marcus,

I've seen this handle style by blades from the lesser Sunda islands like Lombok and Sumbawa. :shrug: I doubt that it is a Mentawai dagger.

Regards,
Detlef

There is indeed a picture of a sword from Sumbawa with a similar hilt on page 135 of the Van Zonneveld book.


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