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harrywagner 8th January 2016 01:59 PM

Turkish military?
 
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This is my own personal bad penny. I think it might be from Turkey. A friend said he thought it looked like military issue. It is worn enough that I think it has some age. Can anyone help identify it? TIA.

Harry

Battara 8th January 2016 05:24 PM

Bad penny?.......well..........

This is a tourist piece in the stye of the Ottoman WWI officer's jambiya. Turkish made? - yes. Antique - no.

Sorry for the bad news.......... :shrug:

harrywagner 8th January 2016 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara
Bad penny?.......well..........

This is a tourist piece in the stye of the Ottoman WWI officer's jambiya. Turkish made? - yes. Antique - no.

Sorry for the bad news.......... :shrug:

It's alright. Thanks for letting me know.

Sancar 9th January 2016 05:50 AM

Looks like a copy of a WWI "Enveriye" dagger. I don't think it is Turkish made. Local wallhanger daggers for tourist market are far worse than this. Possibly from Syria or other Arabic countries. Syrian-made "ottoman" fakes are all over the market nowadays.

Oriental-Arms 9th January 2016 09:32 AM

The original one
 
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The original one, numbered and dated 1334 (1915)

harrywagner 9th January 2016 01:02 PM

Thanks
 
Thanks everyone. I appreciate the help. I almost did not post this knife as I never considered it might be a fake. I am glad I did. I prefer to know what I have. The photos of the real deal are especially helpful. I tried to return this one but, like a bad penny, it came back. The good news is that it is the last item in my collection that I am not completely certain of. This group has been extremely patient with me. Thanks for that. I have been on the "fast track" with my collection. I did not start until I was already an old geezer, and made more than a few questionable purchases in an attempt to get some experience. I came to my senses a few months ago and have completely given up ePray. My new mantra is "buy only from dealers and other collectors". Thanks again. I very much appreciate the help.

Harry

Battara 9th January 2016 04:55 PM

No problem.

The only stupid question is the one not asked...........

Thank you Sancar: I didn't know that Syrians were making fakes of these.

Your question helped me learn (and I have a lot to learn :o )........

A.alnakkas 9th January 2016 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harrywagner
Thanks everyone. I appreciate the help. I almost did not post this knife as I never considered it might be a fake. I am glad I did. I prefer to know what I have. The photos of the real deal are especially helpful. I tried to return this one but, like a bad penny, it came back. The good news is that it is the last item in my collection that I am not completely certain of. This group has been extremely patient with me. Thanks for that. I have been on the "fast track" with my collection. I did not start until I was already an old geezer, and made more than a few questionable purchases in an attempt to get some experience. I came to my senses a few months ago and have completely given up ePray. My new mantra is "buy only from dealers and other collectors". Thanks again. I very much appreciate the help.

Harry

Hey Harry,

Buy books, lots of books. And try to specialize. The more you specialize into one region (the Muslim world is vast and each region is different) the less fakes end up in your collection, you simply end up knowing all that is needed :-)

Battara 10th January 2016 02:13 AM

TRUE 'DAT! No substitute for research. I don't like to buy anything I haven't researched.


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