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Sajen 8th May 2016 06:43 PM

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Another recent addition, a rather big one, overall 12". Very unusual blade shape. Enjoy. :)

kronckew 8th May 2016 07:34 PM

gorgeous!
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Sajen 8th May 2016 07:41 PM

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gorgeous!


:D Thank you! :) ;)

David 8th May 2016 08:07 PM

Well, damn Det! That's a nice one! Love that blade. If it ever tells you it would like to vacation in the States give me a shout. ;) :)

Sajen 8th May 2016 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by David
Well, damn Det! That's a nice one! Love that blade. If it ever tells you it would like to vacation in the States give me a shout. ;) :)

Hello David,

thank's as well! :D Will let you know in this case. ;)

Best regards,
Detlef

Battara 8th May 2016 08:56 PM

What an interesting blade!

Robert 8th May 2016 09:05 PM

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Hello Detlef, For this style of gunong this one has the most well made blade I have yet to see. With the cutting edges being what I would describe as "hollow ground" it has a very pronounced medial ridge somewhat like those seen on a lot of the pieces from Africa. It is unfortunate that these photos do not give justice to this feature, but I will try to take some that will just as soon as the rain stops long enough for me to do so. This will make a wonderful addition to your ever growing collection of beautiful gunongs. Congratulations my friend on this great score that you have made. Once you have this in hand you will see how unique this blade really is. In the meantime, here is a poor quality photo that at least gives a little better idea of how pronounced the blade's medial ridge actually is.

Best,
Robert

Sajen 9th May 2016 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara
What an interesting blade!

Thank you Jose, it wasn't to seen by the seller pictures so it was a big extra present when seen first. :)

Best regards,
Detlef

Sajen 9th May 2016 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert
Hello Detlef, For this style of gunong this one has the most well made blade I have yet to see. With the cutting edges being what I would describe as "hollow ground" it has a very pronounced medial ridge somewhat like those seen on a lot of the pieces from Africa. It is unfortunate that these photos do not give justice to this feature, but I will try to take some that will just as soon as the rain stops long enough for me to do so. This will make a wonderful addition to your ever growing collection of beautiful gunongs. Congratulations my friend on this great score that you have made. Once you have this in hand you will see how unique this blade really is. In the meantime, here is a poor quality photo that at least gives a little better idea of how pronounced the blade's medial ridge actually is.

Best,
Robert

Hello Robert,

thank you for your kind words and help, like you know it was a neglected piece and poorly photographed by the seller. I am more as happy with the outcome after you have given it some maintenance. And like all others I am not aware to have seen such a shape by gunong blades before.

Best regards,
Detlef

Sajen 26th June 2016 12:14 PM

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Here a "new" family member, a rather "simple" exemplar. When it arrives at it destination was found that the handle was broken in two parts and the wooden parts of the scabbard are rotted.

The pictures showes it after my good friend Robert has restored the handle and has worked a complete new scabbard for it including the fittings for it. Again an outstanding work, now it is a beautiful example of this type. :)

Ferguson 26th June 2016 01:13 PM

Simple, sweet and honest little piece. Congratulations!

Nice work on the scabbard Robert. What type of wood did you use?

Steve

Sajen 26th June 2016 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferguson
Simple, sweet and honest little piece. Congratulations!

Thank you Steve! :)

Regards,
Detlef

Robert 26th June 2016 06:38 PM

Hello Detlef, I am very happy that you are pleased with the way that this has turned out. I just wish that the original scabbard could have been saved as well, but the wood rot was much too extensive to even attempt a restoration. When being handled the scabbard would actually start to crumble when touched in many areas. There is a small spot of this rot on the hilt (the dark spot) that I was able to stabilize so that no reprofiling of the wood of the hilt would be necessary.

Steve, Thank you for your kind words on the restoration work. The scabbard is made of wood salvaged from a couple of old talibong scabbards that were in themselves far too damaged to repair. I am not sure of what the correct name for this wood is, but it looks and has the grain pattern and characteristics of some of the mahoganies that I have worked with before.

Best,
Robert

Sajen 27th June 2016 10:50 AM

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I am very happy that you are pleased with the way that this has turned out.

Very pleased my friend! :) :cool:

Sajen 18th July 2016 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by VANDOO
QUITE A NICE DISPLAY AND CONGRADULATIONS ON AQUIRING SUCH AN UNUSUAL KNIFE.
I SAW THIS EXAMPLE OF PISTOL KNIFE SELL A WHILE BACK AS A CIVIL WAR BOWIE WITH A 7 INCH BLADE. IT LOOKS VERY SIMULAR, SO I PUT IT HERE FOR COMPARISON. I WONDER WHEN AND WHERE THESE WERE MADE. PERHAPS SPANISH AMERICAN WAR ERA OR SHORTLY THERE AFTER? :shrug:

Here another very nice one which was listed several times by ebay but extreme expensive and wrong described as made from a blacksmith from Texas! :D

Sajen 18th July 2016 05:21 PM

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Here all four examples side by side for comparision.

Robert 20th July 2016 05:01 PM

Another great addition to your ever growing family of gunong Detlef. I really like the mother of pearl grips on this one. One day I hope to find one of these to add to my own small collection of gunong. Congratulations on another great score.

Best,
Robert

Sajen 20th July 2016 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert
Another great addition to your ever growing family of gunong Detlef. I really like the mother of pearl grips on this one. One day I hope to find one of these to add to my own small collection of gunong. Congratulations on another great score.

Best,
Robert

Hello Robert,

no, not a new addition to my collection, sadly. It was far to expensive with nearly $500! :eek: I only want to show another one of this seldom seen type of gunong. About one year ago I've contacted the seller and told him that this dagger isn't for sure made from a blacksmith in Texas but from one at the Philippines but he never respond. ;)

Best regards,
Detlef

Robert 20th July 2016 09:01 PM

That is a shame as it would have found a good home with lots of new friends. I have run into sellers before that have been told something outlandish about an item they have by a "so call expert" and there was absolutely no way possible to convince them otherwise. Even showing them published examples with the correct information about the item would not change their minds. :shrug:

Best,
Robert

Battara 20th July 2016 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert
That is a shame as it would have found a good home with lots of new friends. I have run into sellers before that have been told something outlandish about an item they have by a "so call expert" and there was absolutely no way possible to convince them otherwise. Even showing them published examples with the correct information about the item would not change their minds. :shrug:

Best,
Robert

Robert I have often found the same thing, and then figure out that the dealers paid way too much and so need to stiff others to get their money back out if the item. :rolleyes:

Robert 20th July 2016 10:19 PM

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Robert I have often found the same thing, and then figure out that the dealers paid way too much and so need to stiff others to get their money back out if the item.
I believe that this is at times the same with individuals as well. Sometimes they will pay too much for something because they buy the story being told and not the item itself. Then instead of just writing it off as a bad decision they try to recoup their investment by passing on the same story (even knowing it is incorrect) in hope someone else will buy it. Others just make up their minds that what they have been told is the absolute truth and nothing can be said to change their minds.

Best,
Robert

Sajen 20th July 2016 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert
That is a shame as it would have found a good home with lots of new friends. I have run into sellers before that have been told something outlandish about an item they have by a "so call expert" and there was absolutely no way possible to convince them otherwise. Even showing them published examples with the correct information about the item would not change their minds. :shrug:

I've shown the seller also the pictures of the here shown other examples but like said don't get respond. It could be that Jose hit the bull's eye.
Here a part of the sellers description: You are bidding on a one of a kind custom made 1890's Gun Handled Boot Knife with its custom made leather sheath. It is absolutely perfect in every way. I was told by the person that I purchased the knife from that this knife was purchased many years ago from the great grandson of the maker of the knife - a blacksmith from San Antonio, Texas. The knife measures 8 1/8 inches long by 4 1/8 inches wide, and the blade is 1/4 inch at its widest point. The blade is accented with a simplistic geometric design. The handles are made of mother-of-pearl.

Sajen 24th July 2016 09:40 AM

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I have to add pictures of a new addition to my collection, I think that it is from around 1910 until 1920. The fittings are from silver, enjoy.

Sajen 7th October 2017 09:41 AM

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After long time I was able to add a "new" member to the family, sadly without scabbard but an early and somewhat unusual piece with 13 luk and a brass inlay on the blade, will post better pictures when I have it in my hands, here the seller pictures. The dagger is 26 cm long (10.24").

Robert 8th October 2017 12:53 AM

What a beautiful and what looks to be late 19th century example that you have been fortunate enough to add to your ever growing collection of gunongs. I cannot tell for sure from the photos so I ask, can tell me is the brass medial ridge is brazed to the surface of the blade or is it as I believe and is actually inlaid into it? Either way it makes for a most interesting as well as very unusual piece. My congratulations for your good fortune in acquiring this piece.

Best,
Robert

Sajen 8th October 2017 02:11 AM

Hello Robert,

the seller stated that it is an inlay on both sides but I will know it for sure when I have received it. And thank you for confirming my age guess and your kind words! :)

Best regards,
Detlef

Robert 8th October 2017 03:23 AM

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I believe that what the seller has told you is correct. I just notice that in one of the photos you have posted that there is a section where it looks as though there might be a little separation of the two metals. This is something that is more indicative of this being an inlay than of a weld releasing. I have attached the photo below that shows this area a bit better, but we will only know for sure after it has arrived and you have had a chance to inspect it more closely.

Best,
Robert

russel 8th October 2017 04:20 AM

Stunning example Detlef, congratulations!

Sajen 8th October 2017 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert
I believe that what the seller has told you is correct. I just notice that in one of the photos you have posted that there is a section where it looks as though there might be a little separation of the two metals. This is something that is more indicative of this being an inlay than of a weld releasing. I have attached the photo below that shows this area a bit better, but we will only know for sure after it has arrived and you have had a chance to inspect it more closely.

Best,
Robert

Wow, you have a very good eye Robert! :)

Regards,
Detlef

Sajen 8th October 2017 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by russel
Stunning example Detlef, congratulations!

Thank you mate! :)

Regards,
Detlef


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