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kronckew 11th March 2024 12:43 AM

Genoui/s'boula?
 
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Just aquired this genoui, or is it a s'boula? it's 57cm. overall.

Any info, or comment, you can add on age, area of mfg., tribe, etc. is appreciated.

TVV 11th March 2024 04:25 AM

If you go by Eric Claude's book on Moroccan and Algerian arms, he seems to use Genoui for shorter daggers, and Sboula for the longer ones. Yours would fall into the Sboula category based on size. Not sure if such classification would be correct from a traditional point of view, as is the case with a lot of terminology that is frankly the invention of modern collectors like us.

It is Moroccan, and I would date it to the late 19th, early 20th century. I cannot tell from the pictures, but is it possible it was made from the blade of an M1874 Gras rifle?

Very nice item, good acquisition.

kronckew 11th March 2024 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TVV (Post 289361)
... is it possible it was made from the blade of an M1874 Gras rifle?

Very nice item, good acquisition.


Thanks. I suspect it is indeed a repurposed French bayonet blade. I happen to have been sent one by a friend a while back, sans scabbard. He had no use for it, & I'll eventually 'convert' it myself. I'll compare them when it arrives.

(don't care much for its uncomfortable military bayonet grip & mechanism.) I've heard the Legion was fond of dismounting them from their rifles for house clearing, they, on the rifle, were just too long. Probably better for trench clearing, too.)

kronckew 14th March 2024 08:30 PM

It arrived today, love it. Blade is 17 inches & obviously a French bayonet sacrificed itself to make this. I gather they were originally about 20 in, so the other 3 in. must be inside the grip, along with a thin steel section to which the two grip halves are riveted, possibly also to a drilled blade root stub. It's edge is very sharp. It's obviously very stabby indeed. Well balanced and comfortable in the hand, too. Essentially a long stiletto.

Sajen 14th March 2024 09:18 PM

Hello Wayne,

Is the handle from wood or goat horn?

Regards,
Detlef


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