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vasilisnik 4th April 2019 07:12 PM

Powder flask origin id
 
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Hi!
I am looking for the origin of this powder flask.
The hangers indicate ottoman but it is not a safe way to judge.
It is made of
  • horn (two colors)
  • lead
  • bone
  • some kind of soft rock
  • wood

Kubur 5th April 2019 06:07 AM

Hi
I'm very jalous, its a very good Ottoman Turkish primer flask
i dont remember the name but i will find it, something like barutluk...
if you dont need itm call me
;)
kubur

vasilisnik 5th April 2019 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Kubur
Hi
I'm very jalous, its a very good Ottoman Turkish primer flask
i dont remember the name but i will find it, something like barutluk...
if you dont need itm call me
;)
kubur


Thanks for your answer Kubur!
The use of stone as a material is not something common as far as I know.
Do you by any chance have a photo of a similar primer flask from a book or a museum ?

stelio 6th April 2019 12:25 AM

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Hello Vasili

A similar gunpowder case is at the Belgrade War Museum.

Greetings
Stelios

Kubur 6th April 2019 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by vasilisnik
Thanks for your answer Kubur!
The use of stone as a material is not something common as far as I know.
Do you by any chance have a photo of a similar primer flask from a book or a museum ?

I don't think it's stone but pottery / ceramic.
to be sure you have to break it, please don't do it
:)

Elgood has one in his book, he said Bosnian
But there is another one in Topkapi Museum and they said Turkish...
I'll try to do some photos...

vasilisnik 6th April 2019 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Stelios
Hello Vasili

A similar gunpowder case is at the Belgrade War Museum.

Greetings
Stelios

For once again very observative!
Congrats for the records you keep.

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Originally Posted by Kubur
I don't think it's stone but pottery / ceramic.
to be sure you have to break it, please don't do it
:)

Maybe you are right..It is a porous grey material that might be ceramic.Either ceramic or stone it is still really unusual. I won't break it in order to be sure though.. :)

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Originally Posted by Kubur
Elgood has one in his book, he said Bosnian

You are absolutely correct. I hadn't notice. It is the one that Stelios posted above that belonged to Karadjordje Petrovic.

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Originally Posted by Kubur
But there is another one in Topkapi Museum and they said Turkish...
I'll try to do some photos...

That would be great!

rickystl 6th April 2019 07:59 PM

Yes, what an interesting powder flask. And it appears we have a close idea of it's origin. Unusual shape and combination of construction materials.
Notice the plug with slight threads on the larger end to facilitate filling the container with powder. With the smaller, tapered end used for priming.

A really nice piece with lots of decorative chain. Congratulations.

Rick

vasilisnik 9th April 2019 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rickystl
Yes, what an interesting powder flask. And it appears we have a close idea of it's origin. Unusual shape and combination of construction materials.
Notice the plug with slight threads on the larger end to facilitate filling the container with powder. With the smaller, tapered end used for priming.

A really nice piece with lots of decorative chain. Congratulations.

Rick

Thank you


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