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celtan 9th December 2008 06:38 PM

ISB Sword Makers?
 
Hi Guys,

Have been trying to find info on ISB sword smith(s). I believe they were either german or dutch. Does anyone know about him or them?

:confused:

Best

M

http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r.../moresw045.jpg

Jim McDougall 9th December 2008 09:09 PM

Hi Manuel,
What type of sword is this on, sometimes context helps, though you have noted German or Dutch.

Best regards,
Jim

celtan 9th December 2008 09:45 PM

http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r.../moresw040.jpg

http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r.../moresw039.jpg

Best

M

Jim McDougall 9th December 2008 11:44 PM

Hi Manuel,
Isnt this a Napoleonic court epee very much like the one you posted at the end of October? It seems that one had a strikingly similar panel at the forte with the intials IGB on it, the festooned and bordered enclosure looks very much the same also. I believe the suggestions were the Bogel family in Germany or Broch was the other name suggested.

All the best,
Jim

celtan 10th December 2008 01:42 PM

Hi Jim,

Well, there's indeed a general similarity. The other's blade was hollow triangular, this one is flat. An yes, I thought about the initials similarity, but the other one middle initial was definitely G/C, and this one is S (ISB).

Perhaps Iohannes Bogel set shop with another sword-smith whose name starts with S?

The blade looks later that the Naploeonic epee previously submitted, although following a similar french style. Did you notice the Nethelandic looking lion on the hilt?

Best

Manuel

celtan 20th January 2009 03:37 PM

I have been informed by Dominic, a friend collector from another forum, that ISB stands for Isaac Schimmel Busch, an armourer from Solingen.

I haven't been able to find any further info on him.

Does any other friendly forumite have any info on this armourer?

Dom also informed me he doesn't believe this is a Dutch sword. The only other alternative as I see it is perhaps Belgian.

Any thoughts on the matter?

Best

Manuel :confused:


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