Ethnographic Arms & Armour

Ethnographic Arms & Armour (http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/index.php)
-   Ethnographic Weapons (http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=2)
-   -   Centipede, Scorpion, or what?? (http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=6818)

kino 5th August 2008 01:32 AM

Centipede, Scorpion, or what??
 
4 Attachment(s)
I acquired this Barung thru a trade from one of our members. One of my prized. It has a pommel of lovely grained wood inlaid with bone and Karabau horn. The blade is inlaid with brass in the form of a Centipede. Others told me it resembles a scorpion.
Another thought it looked like “seaweed” :shrug: …. could be, but not likely.

Any thoughts or comments?

Battara 5th August 2008 03:03 AM

Interesting - does look like a centipede.......

VVV 5th August 2008 06:29 AM

1 Attachment(s)
Nice barong!
I have one with a centipede inlay too and assume that it could symbolise, transfer to the blade,
the poisonous bite of the centipede?
Like how in the Bisayas poisonous spiders are added to the sword blade when tempering it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOf3dor2qg4

Michael

kino 6th August 2008 04:22 AM

Michael, yours have more of a Centipede image than mine. Care to share photos of the whole Barung. It's niiice.

PenangsangII 6th August 2008 06:42 AM

Most likely a centipede - in Morc & Malay cultures, snake and centipede have a place in weapons symbolism - never heard of scorpion being used.

VVV 6th August 2008 08:38 AM

2 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by PenangsangII
Most likely a centipede - in Morc & Malay cultures, snake and centipede have a place in weapons symbolism - never heard of scorpion being used.

Scorpions are seen now and then as kinatah emas on keris and related weapons from Solo. A famous example is the one in Tropen with a cosmic wheel on the other side. Below is an example from Sumatra.
And the full view of the barong with the centipede inlay (on the other side it has Ali's sword, Solomon's seal and a wild dog (?)).


Michael

Maurice 6th August 2008 08:50 AM

That is a nice barong Michael!

kino 7th August 2008 01:46 AM

WOW! That is a nice Barung, Michael.

Tim Simmons 7th April 2009 07:12 PM

Another reference to the power of the centipede, 3rd paragraph.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cakobau

migueldiaz 8th April 2009 01:03 AM

1 Attachment(s)
Looks like a centipede all right.

Am just wondering why in both Kino's & Michael's examples (and maybe it's true for all?), the centipede's head is facing the sword wielder, rather than the enemy? :rolleyes:


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:12 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here.