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carlos 20th April 2011 05:21 PM

Little wavy dagger, please help
 
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Today had arrived my last adquisition, seems Filipino, but I´m not sure.
The new adquisition is this little dagger, with wood hadle.
Best regards
carlos

Rich 20th April 2011 06:22 PM

Carlos -

I guess it could be Filipino, but the work looks more European to me. Nice looking knives where ever it is from.

Rich

Battara 20th April 2011 09:02 PM

I guess what throws me is that hilt looks more like a post WWII leg or bed finial. Brass ferrule looks new also. Cross guard - silver?

Still could be PI though. If it really is, could be Ilokano.

migueldiaz 21st April 2011 02:29 AM

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Nos. 1 & 12 of Krieger's Plate 13 may be related:

"Plate 13 -- Hand weapons for cutting, piercing, and stabbing: Knives and daggers. No. 1. Dagger; triangular sectioned, curved, and pointed blade; single cutting edge; carved wood handle. Quinapundar, Samar Island. 2. Dagger "bala-rao"; hastate shape double-edged blade; handle provided with a peculiar finger-fitting grip consisting of extended tang and two horns; silver ferrule at center. Chief defense weapon of the Mandayan, southeastern Mindanao. 3. Woman's knife. Blade curved, designed for striking a slanting blow. Bagobo, southeastern Mindanao. 4. Plain dirk-dagger having curved blade, ferruled wooden handle, and circular guard. Moro, Mindanao. 5. Serpentine Malay dagger; grotesque dugong ivory carving on hilt. Collected by the United States exploring expedition, 1838-1842, under Admiral Wilkes. 6. Malay dagger; curved wooden pistol shape hilt; characteristic serpentine figure carving; straight-edged blade. Wilkes exploring expedition. 7. Serpentine kris-dagger; plain horn handle; engraved circular silver guard and ferrule. Moro, Mindanao. 8. Malay dagger; laminated blade; figured and carved handle of wood. Dyak, Pasir River, southeast Borneo. 9. Punal de kris; blade chased on surface section near handle; wood handle set in socketed brass ferrule. Moro, Mindanao. 10. Dagger; curved, double-edged blade; curved plain wood handle. Moro, Mindanao. 11. Dagger having saberlike blade; metal guard provided with volute tips; carved wood handle; blade chased and inlaid with soft metal at back. Moro, Jolo. 12. Dagger; serpentine blade; metal cross guard; spiral fluted grip of Camagon wood. 13. "Insurrecto" sword-dagger chased blade, pointed and double edged; cross guard; horn handle inlaid with shell mosaic; symbolically figured pommel."

Robert 21st April 2011 02:43 AM

Hello Migueldiaz, A very nice looking dagger you have there. Could you show a picture of the end of the hilt and is the wood of the hilt painted or stained?

Robert

migueldiaz 21st April 2011 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Coleman
Hello Migueldiaz, A very nice looking dagger you have there. Could you show a picture of the end of the hilt and is the wood of the hilt painted or stained?

Hi Robert! It's actually Seņor Carlos who owns the dagger :) But I'm interested also in seeing more pics of the dagger.

Robert 21st April 2011 03:29 AM

Sorry about that. :o Carlos, Could you post a picture of the end of the hilt please?

Robert

carlos 21st April 2011 01:17 PM

More pictures
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Coleman
Sorry about that. :o Carlos, Could you post a picture of the end of the hilp please?

Robert


Of course!!

A.alnakkas 21st April 2011 02:23 PM

Hm, isnt Dagger no.11 a flyssa dagger? it seems to even have the kabyle decoration aswell.

DGuertin 21st April 2011 08:35 PM

#11 to me looks like some North African hybrid of a flyssa and a Nimcha, or something similar. The specific hilt is familiar, but I can't quite put my finger on it.


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