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Sajen 23rd September 2011 07:09 PM

Talibon for comment
 
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Hello dear members,

just win this Talibon by ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/320760661450...84.m1439.l2649, a more simple one but by a good price and nearly complete, only one band from the scabbard is missing.
I think and hope that it is not one from this souvenir pieces from the second world war time you can see many times. What do you think about it's age and origin?

Thank you very much in advance,

Detlef

Sajen 23rd September 2011 07:17 PM

Maybe I should add that the blade is 30,5 cm long and 4 mm thick.

KuKulzA28 23rd September 2011 07:18 PM

I was going to bid on this! But I snoozed... I guess if you snooze you lose!

Sajen, just a note, even if it is from the WWII era, I've used several vintage talibon and they tend to be decent steel and sharpen easily. Not the highest quality, but decent... they're pretty useful in the kitchen ;)

I'm not expert, so they will speak with more authority when they see this and comment, but I my gut feeling is that it's definitely 20th century.

Battara 23rd September 2011 08:30 PM

I'm thinking it is a really good WWII or slightly earlier example. Not a tourist piece however. They still use these, though without the ornamental carvings. I base this on the size of the blade and the quality of the wood carvings. Nice example, congratulations!

Sajen 23rd September 2011 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KuKulzA28
I was going to bid on this! But I snoozed... I guess if you snooze you lose!

Sajen, just a note, even if it is from the WWII era, I've used several vintage talibon and they tend to be decent steel and sharpen easily. Not the highest quality, but decent... they're pretty useful in the kitchen ;)

I'm not expert, so they will speak with more authority when they see this and comment, but I my gut feeling is that it's definitely 20th century.


Thank you very much for comment. And I think byself that it is maybe from the 30s or 40s last century. But my hope is that it is one what was used and not was made for US soldiers.

Regards,

Detlef

Sajen 23rd September 2011 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara
I'm thinking it is a really good WWII or slightly earlier example. Not a tourist piece however. They still use these, though without the ornamental carvings. I base this on the size of the blade and the quality of the wood carvings. Nice example, congratulations!


Thank you Jose, exactly this was what I think and hope. Any suggestions of the origin?

Regards,

Detlef

Battara 24th September 2011 02:53 AM

It is from the Visayan Islands in the middle of the Philippines. Perhaps from Cebu (part of the Visayan Islands).

Sajen 24th September 2011 11:33 AM

Thank you Jose. :)

Lew 24th September 2011 05:15 PM

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I agree with Jose a better than average piece WW2 era. Reminds me of this one that I picked up years ago. Of course the hilt is quite different but the age and quality are about the same more or less except for the more elaborate carving on Sajens example.

Sajen 24th September 2011 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lew
I agree with Jose a better than average piece WW2 era. Reminds me of this one that I picked up years ago. Of course the hilt is quite different but the age and quality are about the same more or less except for the more elaborate carving on Sajens example.

Hello Lew,

thank you for comment. :) Yours is nice as well, I like the good using patina.

Regards,

Detlef

Sajen 14th October 2011 08:33 PM

Have received it and like it! :) No early tourist stuff.

harimauhk 16th October 2011 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara
It is from the Visayan Islands in the middle of the Philippines. Perhaps from Cebu (part of the Visayan Islands).

Hi Battara,

The term talibung is not used in Cebu, but it is used in Leyte and Samar. I would put money on this piece having been made in Leyte or Samar. In Cebu, similar knives are called plamingko (like flamenco in Spanish).

harimauhk 16th October 2011 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara
It is from the Visayan Islands in the middle of the Philippines. Perhaps from Cebu (part of the Visayan Islands).

Hi Battara,

The term talibung is not used in Cebu, but it is used in Leyte and Samar. I would put money on this piece having been made in Leyte or Samar. In Cebu, similar knives are called plamingko (like flamenco in Spanish).

This may have been a WWII (or earlier) bringback, but it wasn't made specifically for a tourist to take home, which makes it a lot more attractive!

Battara 16th October 2011 04:46 AM

Oh well, close. :o

Thank you for the correction. ;)

harimauhk 16th October 2011 05:13 AM

No problem! I always learn a heck of a lot on these forums from those far more knowledgeable than me, so it's nice to finally be able to give something back! :)

Sajen 16th October 2011 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by harimauhk
Hi Battara,

The term talibung is not used in Cebu, but it is used in Leyte and Samar. I would put money on this piece having been made in Leyte or Samar. In Cebu, similar knives are called plamingko (like flamenco in Spanish).

This may have been a WWII (or earlier) bringback, but it wasn't made specifically for a tourist to take home, which makes it a lot more attractive!


Hello Harimauhk,

thank you very much for this information. :)

Regards,

Detlef

Sajen 2nd November 2011 09:25 PM

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Just win a second one for low money and think that it is from the same time.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/290624410625...84.m1497.l2648

What do you think?


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