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Royston 1st May 2022 02:05 PM

Phillipines or Indonesia?
 
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Was this made by an Indonesian who had seen a Tenegre or a Filipino who liked Indonesian blades and scabbards?

The face is very similar to a tenegre hilt that I have.

O/A length is 18"
Blade is 13"
Blade thickness is 3/8"
The scabbard bands are brass and tin ( I think beer can )
All comments welcome.
Thanks
Roy

SanibelSwassa 1st May 2022 02:40 PM

Newer and not Filipino… maybe Indonesian… I’m definitely not an Indonesia expert.

Peter Andeweg 1st May 2022 02:57 PM

This is an Indonesian 'Golok' from Sundang (West-Java). dating from the first half of the 20th century.

Sajen 1st May 2022 03:32 PM

Agree with Peter, see here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=golok

Regards,
Detlef

kai 2nd May 2022 12:17 AM

Quote:

This is an Indonesian 'Golok' from Sundang (West-Java). dating from the first half of the 20th century.
Yes, Sunda ;)

naturalist 2nd May 2022 02:32 AM

West Java, the hilt (perah) is trying to mimic "Maung Buhun" hilt style .. Maung = tiger, buhun = ancient, old, sacred
Quote:

Originally Posted by Royston (Post 271561)
Was this made by an Indonesian who had seen a Tenegre or a Filipino who liked Indonesian blades and scabbards?

The face is very similar to a tenegre hilt that I have.

O/A length is 18"
Blade is 13"
Blade thickness is 3/8"
The scabbard bands are brass and tin ( I think beer can )
All comments welcome.
Thanks
Roy


Royston 3rd May 2022 01:02 PM

Hello
I meant the comment to be a bit "tongue in cheek" but it looks as though that has backfired on me.
The main point was the " monster" style of hilt that I had not come across before in these Goloks.
The anthropomorphic hilts that I have ( and have seen)are mostly eagles and very simple parrot heads.
This one reminded me of the monster head on a tenegre.
Perhaps naturalist is correct.
Thanks
Roy

Royston 3rd May 2022 04:32 PM

zoomorphic, not anthropomorphic


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