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weapons 27 16th May 2016 10:37 AM

mace for id please
 
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could you give me information on this mace. sorry the photos are not very good, they are snuff with my phone ...

weapons 27 16th May 2016 10:40 AM

there is a write to the blade
is evcaloni ?
evcaloniom ?
evcalonio ?

GIO 16th May 2016 03:15 PM

First World War ??

Roland_M 17th May 2016 11:49 AM

This is not a mace, it is a spiked club, a so called morning star, an early version. I can not see, whether authentic or 19th ct. historicism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morning_star_(weapon)

Roland

kronckew 17th May 2016 11:56 AM

also sometimes known as 'holy water sprinklers'. some even had a crude gun barrel under the removeable top spike.

fernando 17th May 2016 12:01 PM

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ater+sprinkler

fernando 17th May 2016 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roland_M
This is not a mace, it is a spiked club, a so called morning star, an early version. I can not see, whether authentic or 19th ct. historicism ...

Looks crude enough to be old :o .
Better pictures would give a vital clue ...

Roland_M 17th May 2016 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fernando
Looks crude enough to be old :o .
Better pictures would give a vital clue ...


Yeah, I also think this example could be from medieval or early renaissance.

Regards,
Roland

weapons 27 17th May 2016 04:00 PM

I recovers this spiked club and I made some pictures

stekemest 17th May 2016 07:36 PM

Most of these are from 16th to 18th century. Müller/Kölling (Europäische Hieb- und Stichwaffen) show some from the Berlin collection.

Marcus den toom 18th May 2016 06:27 AM

Hi,

Judging by the pictures i would be suprised if this where a few decades old. The wood has no sign of age, patina, cracks, real handlingmarks or even markings of old tools (to make the mace)..
The iron is non consistent in its patina/corossion and the spikes look like they where aged and afterwards hammered into the fresh wood (hence all the curled spiked points).
The blade on top might be the only old thing about it.. :/
Still a nice decorative piece in my eyes, it would surely make a display with some armour :D

weapons 27 20th May 2016 09:19 AM

new photos
 
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here are good pictures
it 2m04m measurement along with the blade.
without the blade 1m70. and 7.5cm wide without peaks

weapons 27 20th May 2016 09:21 AM

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more photos

Helleri 17th July 2016 01:37 PM

I've seen things that look like this called spiked cudgels (Mentioning it because the word Cudgel instead of club might turn a few more search results for you). Also someone said WWI? I thought trench clubs were very short?

VANDOO 23rd July 2016 06:15 AM

THIS TYPE OF POLE ARM IS ONE I HAVE ALWAYS KNOWN AS A HOLY WATER SPRINKLER. THE ONE I CALL A MORNING STAR IS A TYPE OF MACE WITH A SPIKED BALL OR BALLS ON A SHORT HANDLE WITH CHAIN ATTACHING THE TWO. I THINK BOTH SAW USE DURING THE MIDDLE AGES. MOST I HAVE SEEN WERE ATTRIBUTED TO SPAIN BUT THEY WERE LIKELY PRESENT IN SEVERAL OTHER COUNTRY'S AS WELL. I AM CERTAINLY NO EXPERT IN THIS FIELD BUT THAT IS WHAT LITTLE I KNOW RIGHT OR WRONG. :shrug:


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