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Ganja Iras 11th January 2014 08:39 PM

patrem
 
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Dear keris folks ,
Here i share this blade ,an old patrem lombok in kojongan ( sandang walikat ) sheath.
The hilt made of buffalo horn in prabu style.
Any comments are very welcom .
Thanks and regards,

Ganja iras

David 11th January 2014 08:51 PM

I would say that all the dress, including the hilt, are contemporary. I like the color of the horn if they are indeed accurate in the photo. What is the length of this blade?

Rick 12th January 2014 12:08 AM

Am I the only one who sees a similarity of sorts with the Malay kris posted by Charles ?
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=18043

David 12th January 2014 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick
Am I the only one who sees a similarity of sorts with the Malay kris posted by Charles ?
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=18043

If you mean in regards to pamor, most certainly.

Jean 12th January 2014 11:54 AM

I have my doubts that this blade actually originates from Lombok, but other opinions are welcome :)
Regards

David 12th January 2014 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean
I have my doubts that this blade actually originates from Lombok, but other opinions are welcome :)
Regards

I wouldn't be surprised. Where were you thinking, Madura?

Jean 13th January 2014 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David
I wouldn't be surprised. Where were you thinking, Madura?

I would prefer to wait the reply from Ganja Iras but yes, East Java/ Madura seems very likely to me.
Regards :)

Ganja Iras 16th January 2014 12:39 AM

hi
 
Dear friends ,
Thank you very much for the comments and your opinion.
the blade length is 20 centimeters ( gonjo to the tip ).
frankly i dont know much about keris ,so i can't determine the originate of the blade.
The dress ( warangka ) is new made ; purnama sada wood ,but i have no idea about the hilt age.
Thank you.

G.Iras

David 16th January 2014 01:16 AM

I would image the hilt is just about as recent as the sheath. It's not a very refined or skilled piece. I generally see better execution on hilts of this material that have any reasonable age to them. I would not be surprised if this entire ensemble was a Madura creation. :shrug:


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