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chregu 1st July 2011 08:20 PM

South Pacific Stoneblade Knife?
 
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Hi
who knows anything about this knife?
Obsidian blade, handle organic material (like wood)
all information welcome
Thank Chregu

fearn 1st July 2011 08:46 PM

Looks melanesian, certainly. Solomon Islands?

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Atlantia 1st July 2011 11:18 PM

Ooh, Obsidian is lovely!

VANDOO 1st July 2011 11:43 PM

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IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY THE TROBRIAND ISLANDS HAD A SUPPLY OF OBSIDIAN. AFTER LOOKINF THRU PICTURES I DON'T KNOW IF THE TROBRIAND ISLANDS IS A SOURCE OF OBSIDIAN BUT THEY DO SOME VERY GOOD WOOD CARVINGS SO MUST HAVE SOME GOOD BLADE MATERIAL AVAILABLE.
THE ADMIRALTY ISLANDS DO MAKE SPEARS OF OBSIDIAN SO PERHAPS THEY ARE THE SOURCE . TWO EXAMPLES OF ADMIRALTY IS. SPEAR POINTS.

Dom 2nd July 2011 12:04 AM

Hi
I'm absolutely fascinated by "obsidian"
so, a dagger with an obsidian blade :eek:
sincere congratulations

à +

Dom

kahnjar1 2nd July 2011 05:42 AM

Not suggesting any origin of the knife, but just to say that Obsidian is volcanic glass, so could come from anywhere that has (or had) active volcanos. There are many around the Pacific Rim so really any island could have it.

Indianajones 2nd July 2011 11:48 AM

Hello Chregu, nice knife. As Vandoo already modestly pointed out, the knife originates from the Admiralty Islands. The handle would also have had those red and white colors but it seems to be burnt a bit?
Good thing is that the blade of yours is in excellent condition, as with most the tip has been broken.
They are actually quite wanted as is (almost?) everything from the Admiralty Islds (in the Tribal Art-world than). Perhaps you can very carefully try to remove the black? (first on a small spot with wet tissue n bit soap)
Best, Wouter

Sajen 2nd July 2011 02:40 PM

Admiralty Islands would be my guess as well.

Regards,

Detlef

VANDOO 2nd July 2011 06:33 PM

FOR SOME REASON UNKNOWN TO ME MOST VOLCANOES DO NOT PRODUCE OBSIDIAN AT LEAST NOT IN QUALITY OR LARGE ENOUGH SIZE FOR USE IN MAKEING POINTS. IN HAWAII AS CLOSE TO OBSIDIAN AS IT GETS IS SOMETHING CALLED PELIES HAIR WHICH IS VOLCANIC GLASS HAIR THIN.
SOME VOLCANOES HAVE VOLCANIC GLASS WITH OTHER MINERALS INSIDE THAT PREVENT IT FROM BEING FLAKED TO MAKE GOOD LARGE POINTS (SEE SNOWFLAKE OBSIDIAN). VOLCANOES PRODUCE ASH, BASALT AND VARIOUS SORTS OF LAVA BUT GOOD OBSIDIAN IS RARE AND NOT FOUND IN THE MAJORITY OF VOLCANIC MATERIAL WORLD WIDE.
I AM NOT SURE BUT THE LARGEST DEPOSITS AND THE MOST VARIETYS OF OBSIDIAN ARE FOUND IN THE AMERICAS ESPECIALLY SOUTH AMERICA AND TO THE WEST IN NORTH AMERICA.

chregu 2nd July 2011 10:36 PM

Hi
Thank you for your information.
which should agree with the Admiralty Islands. I found several museum pieces.
Question about grip material, I have several times found the term Parinarium nut paste, which is a material that was often used in the Solomon Islands (colored red and white)
My grip has only a faint red / brown color pigments
on.
So thank you again for your help.
regards Chregu


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