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celtan 16th April 2009 09:45 PM
German Pre-WWI Artillery Sword
 
Howdy Guys,

FYVP

What I know: German Artillllery Sword, year 1907 "A la Blucher", originally based on the British 1796 saber.

What I don't know: Model? (M1854/1873?) Meaning of inscriptions?

Obviously it's weapon #110 from...

35st Rgmt. Motorized Infantry?

Has a really pleasant heft to it, being obviously designed for unpleasant work, not a court stroll.

http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r...r/a721a252.jpg

http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r...r/76bfd6be.jpg

http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r...r/0bb05c5a.jpg

BBJW 18th April 2009 09:53 PM
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Here is mine. Bakelite grips. It also has 09 and the cipher of Kaiser Wilhelm on the spine. Also marked E & F Horster Solingen under the languet. This piece still has the original cosmoline on the blade. It had been in a museum since just after the Great War. It was a capture piece and I have the paperwork from the museum somewhere. I just can't lay my hands on it.

Cheers
bbjw

sabertasche 18th April 2009 10:10 PM
Hi BBJW and Celtan, your swords appear to be fairly common generic cavalry weapons associated with Imperial Germany. I believe you are right in that thier design is based on the British 1796 light cavalry sabre and the German copy of it, the so called Blucher pattern. The actual date of adoption escapes me as I don't have any books with me at this time. Both swords are simplified, moderized and adopted around 1898 or so.

According to "Imperial German Regimental Markings" by Jeff Noll,
R I.M. 35 110 would stand for Reserve - Infanterie - Munitionskolonne 35, weapon #110. Ths would be a support unit dealing with suppying ammunition and the sort to infantry units. They would be mounted on horseback hence the cavalry side arm.

The other sword looks to be associated with a Artillery unit. I'd be happy to look up the unit if I can get a clearer picture of the langet.

Cheers,

Greg

celtan 19th April 2009 03:51 AM
Thank you kindly, guys

I was starting to think this could be a Prussian M1873. Thanks for the translation, Sabertache..!

Manuel Luis


Quote:
Originally Posted by sabertasche
Hi BBJW and Celtan, your swords appear to be fairly common generic cavalry weapons associated with Imperial Germany. I believe you are right in that thier design is based on the British 1796 light cavalry sabre and the German copy of it, the so called Blucher pattern. The actual date of adoption escapes me as I don't have any books with me at this time. Both swords are simplified, moderized and adopted around 1898 or so.

According to "Imperial German Regimental Markings" by Jeff Noll,
R I.M. 35 110 would stand for Reserve - Infanterie - Munitionskolonne 35, weapon #110. Ths would be a support unit dealing with suppying ammunition and the sort to infantry units. They would be mounted on horseback hence the cavalry side arm.

The other sword looks to be associated with a Artillery unit. I'd be happy to look up the unit if I can get a clearer picture of the langet.

Cheers,

Greg


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