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Kubur 16th June 2018 03:28 PM

Turkish or Caucasian pistol?
 
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Hi Guys,

Is it Turkish or Caucasian?
I've my idea but i would like to know yours first...


Kubur ;)

rickystl 16th June 2018 04:59 PM

Hi Kubur

Interesting find. I don't think it is Caucassian. They build their guns different.
Generically, I would say it was produced at one of the Balkan gun shops. Possibly Syrian (?) But my guess it was made for an Ottoman customer. A tough call on this one.

Rick

Kubur 16th June 2018 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rickystl
Hi Kubur

Interesting find. I don't think it is Caucassian. They build their guns different.
Generically, I would say it was produced at one of the Balkan gun shops. Possibly Syrian (?) But my guess it was made for an Ottoman customer. A tough call on this one.

Rick

Hi Rick,

Thank you for your comment.
To me this gun is very close to Caucasian pistols but this pistol is Turkish like the ball butt pistols.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=ball+butt
You mentionned the Balkans but do you have Elgood's book on Greek arms?
They didn't do these kind of guns in the Balkans...
So Turkish is the best option IMHO
:shrug:

OsobistGB 16th June 2018 06:37 PM

It is definitely not from the Caucasus region.It can certainly be said to have been produced in the Ottoman Empire.

rickystl 16th June 2018 08:55 PM

Hi Kubur

No, actually, I agree with you. I should have been more precise when I said Ottoman, and used Ottoman/Turkish. The semi-precious stones and the tiny tear shaped pieces of coral are similar to what you see on their blade handles.
The lock style on your's is typical of the locks used on the horse pistols throughout the Region. Also interesting that all these large, ball butt styles seem to have been made without trigger guards. And the ball butt being a carry over from European wheellock pistols of the 16th Century.
In any case, I agree that the pistol is either of Turkish origin, or built at one of the Balkan gun making centers for a Turkish customer.

Rick


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