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weapons 27 22nd March 2014 03:37 PM

spanish daggers ???
 
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2 daggers I think Spanish?
the handle is in stone, ivory pieces, brass
the other brass and stone
brass scabbard
It measures 23cm

M ELEY 22nd March 2014 11:58 PM

The blades and very distinctive guards are those found on dress dirks of the late 18th-early 19 c., but the hilts are throwing me. The pommel style is late 18th, the grip reminds me of those daggers from the Azores. What are they called again!? Could the hilts have been replaced or are these more Spanish colonial? Or an African/Moroccan interpretation of a European form?

fernando 23rd March 2014 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by M ELEY
...the grip reminds me of those daggers from the Azores. What are they called again!? ...

Daggers from Azores ? Now you got me, Capitão :confused:

M ELEY 23rd March 2014 10:02 PM

Perhaps my lack of sleep is blurring my memory, Fernando. I was trying to remember those daggers discussed on the Ethno side that closely resemble and are often mistake for plug bayonets. They were from the isles between the U.S. and Morocco/Spain. Forgive my clarity-just worked a looooong week at the hospital!

Looked it up- the Canaries. Than again, perhaps I was remembering the Albacete type- :o Anyway, I was trying to find a pic of the dress dirks with this type guard, but no luck so far. I still think they are dirks and provincial with their hilts.

fernando 24th March 2014 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by M ELEY
... Perhaps my lack of sleep is blurring my memory, Fernando. I was trying to remember those daggers discussed on the Ethno side that closely resemble and are often mistake for plug bayonets...Forgive my clarity ....

I discern some association, there, Mark :) .
Portuguese plug bayonets do exist in the Azorean version, namely when they have whale 'ivory' hilts.
Your clarity is not so dark, after all ;) .
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Originally Posted by M ELEY
... I still think they are dirks and provincial with their hilts...

I concur with your assumption; some local smith giving wings to his imagination :o .


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