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milandro 17th January 2022 01:37 PM

Pamorless Tombak
 
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Hello Again, I wanted to show you this Tombak which I received as a gift from a fellow Keris Enthusiast the tombak had no Ukiran, Mendak en Pendok but this friend looked through the collection of spares and put this together, I think that final result is not at all unpleasant.

The blade itself has no pamor, I am not sure whether to have it etched (and it will probably become all black) , the tip is ever so slightly curved , I don’t know if by design or accident. For the rest I am absolutely clueless about its origin , and I assume it is an Indonesian archipelago Tombak.

kai 18th January 2022 01:42 PM

Hello Milandro,

Spear heads are tough to place - this example seems to have a Sumatran touch to it but I'm far from certain.

There seem to be pamor lines visible which should exhibit decent contrast upon etching.

I believe the ensemble would be better of without the brass "selut" though.

Regards,
Kai

milandro 18th January 2022 02:40 PM

Cheers, I’ve heard before it may have been Sumatran but I understand it is difficult to place with any degree of certainty.

A. G. Maisey 18th January 2022 09:57 PM

I cannot see anything in this tombak that I can recognise.

David 19th January 2022 05:05 AM

Milandro, when we started this separate keris forum a while back we decided that it would be reserved only for keris and that any other Indonesian weapon would be discussed in the main Ethno forum. So i am going to transfer this thread over there.
I will say that i have never seen a tombak like this one before. I suspect it is not Javanese. It might be helpful if you would remove the blade from the unrelated bits that have been added and photograph the naked blade.

GIO 19th January 2022 03:51 PM

I agree with Kai, Alan and David: I can see some pamor lines, but the structure of the blade, particularly at its base, does not seem Indonesian.

A. G. Maisey 20th January 2022 06:28 AM

I wonder if the decorative motif on the metuk might give us a clue to place of origin?

I saw exactly this motif on the barge board of a house yesterday. I was just driving by and noticed it, even now I've forgotten where it was, but the barge board was black, and the motif was cut into it and painted white.

Maybe this tombak is not SE Asian at all, maybe something else.


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