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Cerjak 2nd November 2016 01:04 PM

FRENCH CLOSE HELMET MID 16TH CENTURY
 
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FRENCH CLOSE HELMET WITH ETCHED AND GILT DECORATION MID 16TH CENTURY
At last I had the luck to add this rare helmet for field to my collection.
Any comments on it would be welcome.
best
CERJAK

Cerjak 2nd November 2016 05:24 PM

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A similar etched and gilt decoration could be find on the burgonet in the musée de l'armée in Paris ascribed to ANNE DE MONTMORENCY (1493-1567)
http://www.musee-armee.fr/collection...1493-1567.html

Cerjak 2nd November 2016 05:37 PM

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2 more French close helmets for the field

ulfberth 3rd November 2016 07:33 PM

That's a beautiful and elegant closed helmet Cerjack and in good condition to , congratulations !

kind regards

Ulfberth

Oliver Pinchot 4th November 2016 01:12 AM

Nice acquisition, congratulations!

A Senefelder 4th November 2016 01:52 PM

Jean, any chance for some pictures of the inside? I believe I see a small repair/restoration on the flange of the front half of the helmet where the gorget lames would be attached and possibly a small one on the medial ridge/comb and some inside pics would help me make sure. It would also aid in determining if the bowl was made in one piece or two halves crimped together along the comb. It looks from the pics to be two halves from what I can see where the plume holder is attached but the spot on the comb that may be a repair or possibly a point of attachment makes it hard to tell for certain.

mariusgmioc 4th November 2016 04:27 PM

Repaired or not, this is a magnificent helmet and in excellent condition!

Great aquisition! :)

Thank you for sharing it with us!

Cerjak 4th November 2016 04:37 PM

Thank you all for your comment,Allan I will post later some pics from the inside.
Best
CERJAK

Villerica 6th February 2023 08:23 PM

Is the skull made of one or two pieces ?

Cerjak 7th February 2023 08:03 AM

the skull is made of two pieces

Raf 7th February 2023 10:36 AM

Great to see.
Its reassuring that the real thing looks unquestionably right

Villerica 7th February 2023 07:51 PM

Thank you Cerjak. It's a very interesting Close Helmet and typically French in it's form. A nice find. I had one once but they are difficult to find.
I have the impression that I have seen it before. Has it been at auction ?
I didn't see that it was made of 2 pieces straight away. It's remarkably well done. I have the impression that I can see a rivet on the crest. Are there rivets along the crest holding the 2 sides together ?

Cerjak 9th February 2023 07:44 AM

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in fact the two parts are assembled by means of a line of rivets, the latter are only visible from the inside except for the one that appears due to a local delamination of the roped comb. sold by TDM in June 2007

Cerjak 9th February 2023 11:29 AM

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an other example which was offered in 2018 from the USA with less prominent visor

Villerica 9th February 2023 11:48 AM

Magnificent piece ! Thanks for the info. I do love these 2 piece Close Helmets. Maybe the first ones were made like this with a line of rivets rather than folded along the ridge. I have been told that they first appeared round about 1560-70 in France.

It has a lovely form. If it was mine I don't know if I would have it restored with a gorget or just leave it as it is.

Villerica 9th February 2023 11:52 AM

That's interesting. It's a one piece though isn't it ? I had a restored one but it too had a one piece construction.

Cerjak 9th February 2023 11:55 AM

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better pic

Villerica 9th February 2023 05:43 PM

Yes it's a real beauty ! Nice etching too which I think may have been gilded.

Cerjak 10th February 2023 03:17 PM

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armet of king HENRY III ( musée de l'armée)

Villerica 14th February 2023 06:27 PM

Very nice !

Villerica 14th February 2023 07:38 PM

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I am not saying that it is fake but I find the form very odd particularly when I compare with other examples of French close helmets.


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