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Jeff Pringle 20th November 2018 08:15 PM

where the heck is this from?
 
I can't really pin it down, anyone seen similar? Hopefully me link ain't lame...
https://www.instagram.com/p/BqWC98ph...on_share_sheet

David 20th November 2018 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Pringle
I can't really pin it down, anyone seen similar? Hopefully me link ain't lame...
https://www.instagram.com/p/BqWC98ph...on_share_sheet

Well Jeff, your link is only "lame" only because it is a general rule of these forums that you upload images of items you wish discussed directly to the forum. The link works fine now, but the odds are that in 5 years or so it will not and then this will be a useless thread in the archives with no illustration of the blade present to make sense of what we were talking about. ;)
So if you could upload some photos that would be much appreciated. Thanks! :)

Sajen 20th November 2018 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Pringle
I can't really pin it down, anyone seen similar? Hopefully me link ain't lame...
https://www.instagram.com/p/BqWC98ph...on_share_sheet

I know exactly what it is and will tell it soon as we have direct pictures. ;)

Ian 20th November 2018 09:57 PM

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Hi Jeff:


This is a well known knife and Detlef will tell you all about it. I have attached a screen shot of your picture. Next time please upload your pics directly to this forum using the Attachments feature.

Ian.


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DaveF 20th November 2018 10:23 PM

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Well, this is the first time I've had the opportunity to pass on some information rather than just soak it up, so I hope Detlef won't mind while I just blurt out a few snippets, as I just can't contain myself :D :

It's a Khodmi or Bou-Saadi from the town of Bou-Saada in Algeria.

Here's mine that I came across a couple of weeks ago:

Sajen 20th November 2018 11:21 PM

:D It's a Bou Saada/Saadi or Khodmi from Algeria. Use the given keywords and you will find many similar ones like yours. When I find the time I will take pictures from the two I have.

Regards,
Detlef

Jeff Pringle 21st November 2018 12:36 AM

cool, thanks; I took a vacation from the fora and forgot all the proper posting manners, as soon as I re-read the instructions and take another photo or two I'll try to be a good contributor ;-)

Lee 21st November 2018 01:09 AM

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Lew had two of these in his collection:

http://vikingsword.com/lew/w0004/w0004.html

http://vikingsword.com/lew/w1119/w1119.html

kronckew 21st November 2018 09:03 AM

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Mine. Some vendors are selling these as medieval eating knives. They are being made still. They are also called khodmi, if you search here there are a gazillion threads on them...

rickystl 22nd November 2018 03:15 PM

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Hello All

Here is my well used Khodmi. Although it is still solid and sharp for use.

My main area of collecting are Ethno guns. But I do have a few blades. So I thought I thought I would use this Thread to ask you blade experts a question:

It appears that most of this style of Algerian knife have a hole in the handle. I assume this is for a leather lanyard (?) But I find it curious the hole is in the middle of the handle, rather than the end. You would think that would interfere with the finger grip. But maybe I'm missing something ? Any ideas ? Thanks.

Rick

ariel 22nd November 2018 08:26 PM

Algerians surgically removed their middle fingers at 13 yo, at the same time with circumcision.
First, it eliminated interference with gripping the handle of their Khodmis,
and second, it prevented them from flipping a finger to an occasional American tourist.

kronckew 22nd November 2018 10:31 PM

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Actually the native population of the bou Saadi region are very small but wide, averaging 18 in. tall and these are actually swords, much like the dha, are used one handed, and guardless, so the lanyard is below the hand and the extra bit helps balance the sword. The surgical removal of the finger is a myth. They are all born without them. The women are known for their beauty and their silky blonde beards and violet eyes.

They are well known for their ferocious cavalry, equipped with these long cavalry khodmi swords and broad bladed lances, along with their highly intelligent and stealthy eohippus mounts, they also now use large bore .177 cal ak47 variants. Their mounts have been hiding for centuries (considered extinct by outsiders) and are extremely stealthy and make great mounts for Bou Saadi scouts, full size humans do not see them until it is too late. They are so good at it that reports that do exist are never believed. They do not let their men serve tho, they have to stay home and watch the children.

Blue lander has already posted a full length khodmi utility knife, almost a short sword, a 3in. langemesser (they are descendants of the germanic vandals that migrated to north africa.)

Kubur 23rd November 2018 05:50 PM

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Here is mine with a nice Berber sheat.
Many of them were signed on the ricasso.
I will be very gratefull if someone (Ibraheem?) can translate mine...
:)

kronckew 23rd November 2018 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kubur
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Many of them were signed on the ricasso.
...
:)

Like mine above :)

Sajen 24th November 2018 01:00 PM

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Here mine two examples, think both are not very old, like Wayne already mentioned, they are still worked today so far I know.

Sajen 24th November 2018 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kronckew
Mine.

Very nice example Wayne! :cool: Is the handle made from turtle shell?

Regards,
Detlef

Sajen 24th November 2018 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveF
Here's mine that I came across a couple of weeks ago:

Also a very nice older example!

kronckew 24th November 2018 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen
Very nice example Wayne! :cool: Is the handle made from turtle shell?

Regards,
Detlef


No, It's wood,nicely patinated tho.

Sajen 24th November 2018 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kronckew
No, It's wood,nicely patinated tho.

Looks a little bit like this so I asked. Still very nice example!

rickystl 24th November 2018 02:31 PM

Nice examples guys. And the two funny posts LOL !!!! Rick.

kronckew 25th November 2018 11:02 AM

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Just re-found examples sold as medieval eating knives :)

Sold blunt and undecorated, I'm guessing they are actually made in Pakistan "in the style of" real khodmi. They also used to sell a wood grip one too, guess they ran out.

Caveatr Emptor, as usual.

midelburgo 26th November 2018 10:11 AM

I have also a couple of those. What I found interesting is that looking closely they are made from old files, and I also read somewhere that old European discarded tools were exported to Africa because of the steel quality.

Sajen 26th November 2018 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by midelburgo
I have also a couple of those.

When you don't mind please share them with us! ;) :) By my both examples you can't see that they are worked from files and I doubt it will be like this, one has had a very cratched blade which I've polished out without great problems.

Regards,
Detlef

midelburgo 27th November 2018 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sajen
When you don't mind please share them with us! ;) :) By my both examples you can't see that they are worked from files and I doubt it will be like this, one has had a very cratched blade which I've polished out without great problems.

Regards,
Detlef

They are on reach...I will make pictures (I have none now).


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