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Pusaka 26th December 2005 07:12 PM

Javanese keris info
 
Dose anyone know what a Javanese Lei Shan Dao keris is, I really have no idea about this one!

nechesh 26th December 2005 11:20 PM

Well Pusaka, i found this on line on a sight that was mostly in Russian (i think) posted by a guy named David Shen:
The Seminar on Nei Gong. Nei Gong is a very general name just used for easiness. There are many Nei Gong, we practice Lei Shan Dao - thunder and lightening path - Daoist alchemy is one of the languages that describe the internal process of transformation of Jing Qi Shen. Lei shan Dao - the thunder lightening path - that indian and tibetan learn from China. Nowadays only name is left. Very few real masters. Mo Pai is one of the schools of the Lei Shan Dao. I learn 6 different Schools of Lei Shan Dao, Mo Pai is one of them.
The words sound Chinese to me so my guess is that if someone used the words in association with keris it was some kind of modern martial arts invention. I doubt there is any association to real keris culture, but then, maybe someone out there knows different.

Pusaka 26th December 2005 11:48 PM

Hmmm….Interesting I thought it was Chinese too, dose not sound very Indonesian to me. From what you found it suggests that Lei Shan Dao is some sort of internal Qi gong practice.
Maybe there is some connection to keris, if there is I don’t know it.

Lei Shen Dao 28th December 2005 12:20 AM

Hi

Lei Shen Dao has nothing to do with the Indo language, keris etc.

It is a part of the Daoist Neidan traditions (and of cource my member name :) ).

So, there is no such thing as a "Leishen Dao Keris" :)

I hope that helped.

nechesh 28th December 2005 12:30 AM

Thanks L.S.D. (oh....that's cool! ;) ) i didn't think so. :)

Pusaka 28th December 2005 04:33 PM

Thanks L.S.D for that, I also found a reference in the arcives of this forum which briefly mentions it

“i keep seeing the keris and other kerises with wos wutah pamor in this site and i find many differencies in patterns. Can anybody enlighten me about it?
For example the Javanese keris of Lei Shan Dao is quite different that the one i post here...” (Jor-el)

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...highlight=Shan

Lei Shen Dao 28th December 2005 04:58 PM

Hi Pusaka

Lol :) , Jor El is a friend of mine and some months ago we posted our kerisses to take some infos.

He made a comment about my keris when he wrote:
“i keep seeing the keris and other kerises with wos wutah pamor in this site and i find many differencies in patterns. Can anybody enlighten me about it?
For example the Javanese keris of Lei Shan Dao is quite different that the one i post here...” (Jor-el)

So now the puzzle :confused: is solved.

Take care


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