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Athanase 18th November 2023 06:18 PM

Very Nice Sundanese Golok
 
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Hello,

Here is a very unusual golok that I recently acquired.
I broke the bank but I fell in love with its strangeness because I like non-academic objects.
Some may have seen it on sale or on Facebook.
Has anyone seen similar examples?

Unfortunately there is no sheath.

David 18th November 2023 06:59 PM

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That's a beauty! I don't have one that looks like this, but i do have a rather large and heavy old Balinese blade that was identified as a golok that was supposed to be used by temple priests for preparation of ceremonial offerings. Again, it is a completely different style from yours, but perhaps they are both meant for the same type of culture usage.
The blade is 11.75 inches long, 3.25 inches wide and weighs in at a whopping 2 lbs.

kai 18th November 2023 10:39 PM

Very nice kitchen knife, Séverin! :p

Jesting aside: Neat Sunda piece - congrats! Typical high-end workmanship on the hilt and a very fine blade!

Could you add dimensions including blade thickness, please?

Here is another extravagant Sunda blade that I got from Hans' collection:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=12544
Not similar enough to be of much help though.

Regards,
Kai

kai 18th November 2023 10:50 PM

Hello David,

Quote:

Again, it is a completely different style from yours, but perhaps they are both meant for the same type of culture usage.
Your blade looks vintage and has a very different profile. Also, these are very different cultures.

I'd guess that Séverin's blade exhibits a nice balance. Its main function might well be ceremonial. To me it seems like quite a stretch though to argue for the same type of usage based on these unrelated and very different examples, I'm afraid.

Regards,
Kai

Sajen 19th November 2023 06:43 PM

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Hello Séverin,

Beautiful 19th century example, congrats!

Lately a 19th century example was sold here in Germany, sadly I wasn't able to acquire it but here are some pics from the seller. Handle was loose and the scabbard mouth piece was missing.

Regards,
Detlef

David 19th November 2023 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kai (Post 286104)
Hello David,


Your blade looks vintage and has a very different profile. Also, these are very different cultures.

I'd guess that Séverin's blade exhibits a nice balance. Its main function might well be ceremonial. To me it seems like quite a stretch though to argue for the same type of usage based on these unrelated and very different examples, I'm afraid.

Regards,
Kai

Well, if ceremonial, what purpose do you suppose Athanase golok may have been applied to? When i suggested they may have been applied to a similar purpose i meant that both may have been used to prepare ceremonial offerings. That's a specific as i went, not that they were used for that exact same purpose. And i wasn't "arguing" anything. I clearly wrote that "perhaps" they were both meant for preparing ritual offerings. Are you looking for argument here? ;)

David 19th November 2023 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kai (Post 286104)
Your blade looks vintage and has a very different profile.

BTW, i can assure you that while the dress is indeed vintage (perhaps 25-30 years), the blade is definitely antique. ;)

GIO 20th November 2023 02:02 PM

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Here is another extravagant Sunda blade that I got from Hans' collection:
[url]http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=12544[/url]
Not similar enough to be of much help though.


The blades are completely different, but I see many similarities in the dress patterns.

David 20th November 2023 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen (Post 286122)
Hello Séverin,

Beautiful 19th century example, congrats!

Lately a 19th century example was sold here in Germany, sadly I wasn't able to acquire it but here are some pics from the seller. Handle was loose and the scabbard mouth piece was missing.

Regards,
Detlef

Beautiful sword Detlef. Would this be considered a golok though?

Sajen 20th November 2023 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 286164)
Beautiful sword Detlef. Would this be considered a golok though?

Hello David,

Yes, a Sundanese golok. The mouthpiece from the scabbard is missing. Someone wanted it more than I did! :(

Regards,
Detlef

Athanase 20th November 2023 10:25 PM

Hello,
Thank you all very much for your comments and for the examples of sheaths that could match the missing one.

Gavin Nugent 21st November 2023 03:36 AM

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Late to the party!
An absolute stunner! Every facet is gorgeous!
Congratulations on targeting a unique piece of history.
Much simpler carving below.


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