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asomotif 17th June 2018 10:29 PM

INDONESIAN TEXTILE/WHAT KIND OF TECHNIQUE ?
 
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I received a old piece of textile as a gift, it looks indonesian in style.

Does anyone know what kind of technique this is ?
It is in a very bad condition.
I am sort of nervous to even unfold it...

A. G. Maisey 17th June 2018 10:57 PM

Looks like batik to me.

asomotif 18th June 2018 06:27 PM

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It is not batik as I know it.

Here is a close up of the textile.

It looks like some kind of canvas base whihc is light / colourless,
on top of which lays a very fine and fragile layer. maybe silk ?
on this top layer there is a gold paint, which really looks like a painted / printed layer.

A. G. Maisey 19th June 2018 02:46 AM

I believe we need to consider the fabric that holds the pattern, separately to the light 'canvas' underlay.

You mention silk and you mention the application of gold. Both silk and gold (prada/prodo) are used in some types of batik.

I suggest that you study the actual pattern under magnification and strong light and see if you can determine the process that was used to create it.

The thing is this:- we have drawing processes, printing processes and weaving processes that can be used to create such a pattern. It certainly does not appear to be woven. Is it printed or is it drawn? Magnified examination will probably tell you what you are looking at. If it is drawn directly and coloured directly onto the fabric, then it is not batik, if it appears to be the product of the wax exclusion process then you ask if it is cap or tulis, and again, magnified examination may provide you with a clue. Perceived age appears to exclude machine production.

asomotif 22nd June 2018 10:42 PM

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Here a close up.
To me it appears to be painted / printed on top of the fabric.
definately not an ikat / wax technique.

What do you think of the style of the painting ? could it be of any historic value ?

A. G. Maisey 23rd June 2018 01:09 AM

I'm sorry, I do not have sufficient knowledge in this specific field to offer a valid opinion.

Athanase 24th June 2018 12:43 AM

For me, the decorations were hand painted on the fabric.
Whenever I saw (on the internet) fabrics with this type of painting the provenance was always Bali.

A. G. Maisey 24th June 2018 09:37 AM

Yes, quite probably Balinese in style.

Have a look at the paintings on the ceiling of the Palace of Justice in Klungkung, if you scroll down you'll see them. The paintings depict the rewards awaiting those who transgressed in this life, once they make it through to the other side. The Balinese do scary pretty well.

https://www.google.com/search?q=pala...w=1280&bih=910


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