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wildwolberine 16th September 2023 12:28 AM

A couple interesting knives
 
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Sharing these two recent acquisitions. I haven’t seen anything quite like either so I’m hoping a forum member can help. I don’t believe they are especially rare or desirable but they’re both well made with nice leather sheaths.

Top: I thought this was puukko adjacent. Utilitarian wood hilt with dog-leg at end. Chisel ground blade marked “IND”. Leather sheath with loop. Blade 11 cm, OAL 26 cm

Bottom: Central Asia? Hilt comprised of multicolored clear plastic discs. Brass guard and fittings. Extensive ornamentation - floral patterns, rhinestones etc. Tubular leather scabbard like a puukko, with a retention strap. Embossed pattern. I suspect this is a tourist piece but it’s well made and functional. Blade 13 cm, OAL 23 cm

Coincidentally, these have remarkably similar sheaths.

Interested Party 16th September 2023 04:04 PM

The top one marked IND is familiar, but I just can't quite place it. Is it's choil sharpened with a chisel edge as well as its blade?

wildwolberine 16th September 2023 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Interested Party (Post 284758)
The top one marked IND is familiar, but I just can't quite place it. Is it's choil sharpened with a chisel edge as well as its blade?

Thanks! No, the choil isn’t sharpened.

A. G. Maisey 16th September 2023 08:27 PM

The IND one is Bali or close by.

Ren Ren 16th September 2023 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by wildwolberine (Post 284743)

Bottom: Central Asia? Hilt comprised of multicolored clear plastic discs. Brass guard and fittings. Extensive ornamentation - floral patterns, rhinestones etc. Tubular leather scabbard like a puukko, with a retention strap. Embossed pattern. I suspect this is a tourist piece but it’s well made and functional. Blade 13 cm, OAL 23 cm

This knife is typical of Uyghur knives from Xinjiang China. Due to severe restrictions on the production and sale of traditional Uyghur knives, they are becoming quite rare.

Ren Ren 16th September 2023 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey (Post 284769)
The IND one is Bali or close by.

The leather sheath rather points in the direction of the Philippines.

wildwolberine 17th September 2023 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ren Ren (Post 284772)
This knife is typical of Uyghur knives from Xinjiang China. Due to severe restrictions on the production and sale of traditional Uyghur knives, they are becoming quite rare.

Thanks! That’s interesting. I was able to find this knife online, the origin is Hotan, southwestern Xinjiang.

wildwolberine 17th September 2023 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey (Post 284769)
The IND one is Bali or close by.

Thanks! The blade profile resembles the Balinese “mutik” utility knife. The sheath resembles other Balinese sheaths I found online. Could not find an exact match for the handle, but that certainly narrows it down.

A. G. Maisey 17th September 2023 09:56 AM

The blade of the one I ID as Bali is typical of most Balinese work knives --- I'm assuming it is chisel grind, if it is not, then I'm wrong.

The hilt is not typical of Bali, but I have seen a couple of Bali knives years ago with a similar hilt. Usually Bali hilts will have a central ridge along the underside.

The leatherwork is very typical of Bali.

wildwolberine 17th September 2023 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey (Post 284784)
The blade of the one I ID as Bali is typical of most Balinese work knives --- I'm assuming it is chisel grind, if it is not, then I'm wrong.

The hilt is not typical of Bali, but I have seen a couple of Bali knives years ago with a similar hilt. Usually Bali hilts will have a central ridge along the underside.

The leatherwork is very typical of Bali.

Thanks! Yes, the blade has a chisel grind. The hilt definitely has a central ridge or keel. I think we’ve pinned this one down!


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