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archer 24th October 2011 07:49 PM

Cross Culture Shula & flyssa
 
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These two daggers seem to have crossed culture origins. The large kard?? has a 11 inch blade Balkan style earred hilt and a sheath normally found on a Flyssa. The Shula like dagger blade has a typical Shula sheath, but, the hilt is Turkish style. Are these daggers from a separate culture or simply a blend? Your thoughts, comments?

Emanuel 24th October 2011 10:52 PM

Hello,

Interesting daggers. They certainly seem to be a blend of Balkan Ottoman and North African styles. The 'kard' scabbard deviates from flyssa types in having a metal mouth and chape with Balkan motifs. These are never seen on native Kabyle flyssa as far as I know. The wood carving is also different than usual. Can you post a picure of the other side of the scabbard? The handle is purely Balkan I think.
The other dagger is similar to the Moroccan "wedding nimcha" in overall appearance but again the details do not seem North-African to me.
I'm thinking early-mid-20th century pieces.

Regards,
Emanuel

archer 25th October 2011 04:04 AM

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Emanuel, I think the flyssa/ Kards' sheath is rather recent too. It's blade seems far older. I've attached a photo of some other Flyssa sheaths they are similar.
The Shula type is very close to this one: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=shula
posted by Dom. Blade shapes are similar also. Mine has 1880 and 1226 in Arabic on the blade=s 1811. I haven't found a good shot of a kodme mentioned by Tom Hyle.

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