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Flavio 29th May 2007 01:37 PM

Help!! Keris restoration
 
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Hi all, here is another of my keris purchases :p The situation it's quite tragic: the mendak-selut is lost, the warangka was broken and bad glued together, the "point" of the scabbard is also lost. But take a look at the blade: is beautiful :) and so I think that is worth of a good restoration - work. Any help is welcome (where I can find a nice mendak - selut?) Thank you :)

BluErf 29th May 2007 04:37 PM

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Brother of mine. :)

http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_album.php

The keris is "Pattani" in origin, but the way the blade arcs in both examples suggest that they come from the same area. Even amongst the "Pattani" blades, there are stylistic differences.

You can easily find a brass pendoko like this:

http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_photo.php

Flavio 29th May 2007 05:10 PM

Thank you BluErf :)

Flavio 31st May 2007 05:50 PM

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Hi all, well the restoration proceeed: I have unglued the pieces leaving two days in alcohol the warangka and so I have a puzzle to put together :p Well the next step is to glue in right position all the pieces, to fill all the small cracks, to polish the surface and to use the shellac (I hope that the term in english is right - in italian is GOMMALACCA) that with the alcohol is gone. I think that at the end the result will be fine :) .
Ah, nobody could indicate me where I can find a pendoko?
In the meantime the blade is in its bath of pineapple juice to remove all the rust...
Another question: nobody can post a picture to show me as the end of the scabbard should look like? Thank you

I hope that at he end of all this work the keris will be happy and it will bring me fortune !! :D :D :D

Alam Shah 1st June 2007 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Flavio
... Ah, nobody could indicate me where I can find a pendoko?
In the meantime the blade is in its bath of pineapple juice to remove all the rust...

Check your PM. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flavio
... Another question: nobody can post a picture to show me as the end of the scabbard should look like? Thank you

This is how it should look like. The end-piece (buntut). [ picture ]
(KampungNet Keris Gallery is down, or else there are many examples there. :( )

Flavio 1st June 2007 03:25 PM

Thank you Alam :)

Flavio 2nd June 2007 01:00 PM

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Hi all, another step on the long way of restoration :D the puzzle is recomposed. Now, first I have to smooth the microscopic scabrousness in some areas...

Alam Shah 2nd June 2007 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Flavio
Hi all, another step on the long way of restoration :D the puzzle is recomposed. Now, first I have to smooth the microscopic scabrousness in some areas...

A good start... to the puzzle. I've always loved restoration works. I find it interesting... intimately knowing the pieces. ;)

Flavio 2nd June 2007 05:45 PM

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Alam, I'm agree with you, but I hope that the final result is at least worth of all the work... :p
Anyway I've polished the surface: some of the cracks already to this point are visible just a little :D

Flavio 17th June 2007 02:56 PM

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Here we go! The restoration on this part of the scabbard is finished! Shirlak (thank you Marco ;) ) and wax. Also the blade is well cleaned now.

Ferguson 18th June 2007 11:05 AM

Very nice work Flavio!

Steve

BluErf 18th June 2007 02:35 PM

Oh, the wood used for the sampir is actually quite good. Pity that it shattered into so many pieces. I wonder if it was because of the limitation in the wood that the carver had to orientate it in such a way that the grains run through the sampir rather than along the sampir.

cahaya 18th June 2007 02:39 PM

BRAVO.......
 
Hi Flavio!
Good work.....

Battara 18th June 2007 05:52 PM

IMPRESSIVE! :)

Flavio 18th June 2007 06:03 PM

Thank you all :) I will take some pics also of the blade

Flavio 28th July 2007 12:02 PM

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Hi All!! Just to let you know that the restoration proceeds!!! Here are some pics of the keris with its new beautiful pendoko (thanks to all the members that help me and to Mr. Adni :) :) ). Soon pictures of the scabbard, thank you :)

Alam Shah 28th July 2007 01:26 PM

Hi Flavio,

Very nice impressive results. :)
The silver pendongkok (hilt cup) fits nicely, 'hugging' the base of the hilt.
But I guess, there is a slight gap at the base, which should be acceptable.
The blade looks nicely cleaned up...

The silver hilt cup with openworks design and 'fish eggs' decoration, brightens it, making the entire ensemble looks pretty. Love the background cloth as well... ;)

Looking forward for the pictures with the sheath. Btw, what did you use for the sheath's end-piece?

Flavio 28th July 2007 03:55 PM

Thank you Alam :) I haven't yet carved the end piece of sheath, but I was thinking to some kind of hard wood :shrug:

Flavio 29th July 2007 05:12 PM

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Some shots of the blade :)

David 29th July 2007 05:23 PM

Bravo Flavio! You must be very pleased with yourself. Nicely done! :cool: :)

Flavio 29th July 2007 09:36 PM

Thank you for the kind words, David :)

Flavio 1st August 2007 09:58 PM

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Hi all, what do you think? It's too much big? I have to reduce the dimensions? Thank you

Alam Shah 2nd August 2007 12:27 AM

Hi Flavio,

It should be smaller, currently looks like a bugis styled end-piece. ;)

From MAG archives:
http://www.geocities.com/keris4u/ker...alsarasbig.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/keris4u/ker...gisluk7big.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/keris4u/ker...rasluk9big.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/keris4u/ker...layluk7big.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/keris4u/ker...9caritabig.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/keris4u/ker...ritalurbig.jpg

From these references, you should get an idea of an ideal size. :)

Newsteel 2nd August 2007 01:31 AM

That pleasant 'little but detailed' grenengs are very neat. Good restoration work!!

Flavio 2nd August 2007 07:39 AM

Thank you sooo much, Alam :) !!!! I will reduce the dimensions. Thank again - GRAZIE INFINITE :D :D :D

asomotif 2nd August 2007 11:31 AM

Flavio,
Very nice, looking forward to the pictures of the complete project.
Can you advise me where you got the pendoko ?

Best regards,
Willem

Flavio 2nd August 2007 04:11 PM

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Thank you Willem :)

Here are some other pictures of the end piece: this is the best I can do :p ;)

Henk 2nd August 2007 07:55 PM

Flavio,

I think you did very well. Good job!!
A description how you made the buntun would be nice and a source of inspiration. It is not the only buntun missing on such a scabbard :) .

Flavio 2nd August 2007 09:19 PM

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Hello Henk,

Thank you very much :) Ok, I try to explain:
first of all I have found a tablet of teak wood (like the ones for the parquet). I have drawn the profile on the wood and I have removed some wood in the inner portion with a screwdriver that I have re-sharpened on a file....

Flavio 2nd August 2007 09:31 PM

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....Than I have modeled the wood with sand paper. The last pictures show the buntun colored with mordant dark brown. Now the next step is to glue the buntun with natural resin and than to give two or three hands of shirluk.


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