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Congoblades 28th September 2013 05:03 PM

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A large ringlock folding knive from Belgium, made in Brussels about 1900.
Size is 52 cm, a monster ...
:D

kronckew 28th September 2013 05:26 PM

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i like that big bad boy! is the pattern 'damascus' or etching?

i have a very similar tho newer one. it looks smaller than yours tho. :) 'only' a 6 in. (15.25 cm.) blade, 6 ratchet notches on the lever operated lock.

Congoblades 28th September 2013 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kronckew
i like that big bad boy! is the pattern 'damascus' or etching?

Looks like etching?

Ibrahiim al Balooshi 28th September 2013 07:05 PM

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Salaams All~ I have a nice little project to bring on a small Jacknife . The other has a minute oriental stamp? ... The Knife itself came from a trader on the Persian coast. :)
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

A. G. Maisey 29th September 2013 01:24 PM

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EDIT

My apologies for the repetition.

I did not realise I'd put this up previously.

I request the moderators to remove this post with images.

Thank you.


My scribe's knife.

I rather like the idea that it is not used for the manufacture of carpets:- pens and swords are natural running mates.

Billman 30th September 2013 02:20 PM

Content deleted as double posted - see below...

Billman 30th September 2013 02:20 PM

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Salaam Ibrahiim

Your rusty folder looks like a UK military style jackknife - you may find the makers name, year and MOD (WD) broad arrow (/l\) on the shoulder of the main blade. The can opener is typical of British Army knives - maybe a left over from wartime. Handles were often a black fibre board, sometimes jigged to look like bone or antler, but usually with an impressed diamond pattern - occasionally you do find real bone or antler handles ones, but these would have been bought privately, not issued..

They were also issued to British Commonwealth troops, so you may find Australian and Canadian ones - most UK ones would have been made in Sheffield, possibly also in Birmingham...

Several types of opener were fitted - later ones have a can opener incorporated. As a boy I thought the spike was for getting stones out of horses' hooves - I much later learned it is very useful when splicing ropes...

Regards

Bob

Ibrahiim al Balooshi 1st October 2013 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Billman
Salaam Ibrahiim

Your rusty folder looks like a UK military style jackknife - you may find the makers name, year and MOD (WD) broad arrow (/l\) on the shoulder of the main blade. The can opener is typical of British Army knives - maybe a left over from wartime. Handles were often a black fibre board, sometimes jigged to look like bone or antler, but usually with an impressed diamond pattern - occasionally you do find real bone or antler handles ones, but these would have been bought privately, not issued..

They were also issued to British Commonwealth troops, so you may find Australian and Canadian ones - most UK ones would have been made in Sheffield, possibly also in Birmingham...

Several types of opener were fitted - later ones have a can opener incorporated. As a boy I thought the spike was for getting stones out of horses' hooves - I much later learned it is very useful when splicing ropes...

Regards

Bob


Salaams Billman ~ Thank you for an excellent post.
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

DaveA 3rd November 2014 10:06 AM

The folder bug has bitten me!
 
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I saw this new higonokami (肥後守) folder (see picture) from Japan and just had to have it, even without knowing the backstory, which is quite fascinating (see Higonokami Story )

I have a few Languioles from France, a Tre Pianelle by F. Consiglio, several Navaja Estilletes and other folders, a few of which are shown in the pictures. I was happy to discover this thread today while searching the forum for higonokami. There is a fine line between a high quality hand-made folder and an ethnographic knife. I am glad other members share my enthusiasm for a fine folding knife!

Best,

Dave A.

P.S. The folding lohar doesn't count as a "pocket knife" !

kronckew 3rd November 2014 12:47 PM

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i've got one very much like that. fairly cheap, UK legal EDC, nice razor sharp, simple and effective. i've heard they are carried by just about everyone in japan, the equivalent of a boy scout folder of yesteryears.

Sajen 17th January 2019 09:15 AM

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Want to keep this most interesting thread alive! ;)

My vintage German Solingen automatics, from left to right:

1. Herbertz in Italian style
2. Robert Klaas leverlock
3. Wilhelm Weltersbach Waidmannsheil leverlock
4. Böker Treebrand leverlock

Enjoy!

Sajen 17th January 2019 09:33 AM

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And what many people don't may know, in Germany/Solingen were produced in old times balisongs. It's not mine, they are forbidden in Germany since 2003 because teenager were playing with them in public and older people were afraid by this. It's a Henry Kaufmann. Early 20th century until middle 20th century would be my age guess.

Hombre 27th August 2019 11:39 AM

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Sajen wrote: "Want to keep this most interesting thread alive!"
Me too! :)
I have most newly made knives of this category but here are some of my vintage ones.... Sorry for the bad picture!

Best,
Stefan
Sweden

ausjulius 3rd September 2019 03:04 PM

some russian prison made knvies being sold. prices are... fantastic for such things.. but they are many examples..

RobT 18th September 2019 11:57 PM

Unknown Folder Origin
 
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Hi All,

Would anyone like to hazard a guess as to the origin of this little folding knife. Overall the knife measures about 5.625" (about 14.25cm). There is no lock. The knife is opened and held open by the little loop at the back of the blade. The cutting edge is on the incurve. The little indentations near the spine apparently serve as a nail nick. The hilt is entirely brass and is composed of five pieces. The body of the hilt is a single piece of brass that has been folded to contain the blade. That fold continues all the way along the loop at the back of the hilt. There are two circular bosses on either side of the hilt body and the pivot pin runs through them. This knife is for light duty only. The Asian version of a pen knife perhaps?

Sincerely,
RobT

Martin Lubojacky 19th September 2019 08:34 PM

Not my field, but - I was told in China they used simillar (concave) knives for tonsure. But it could be any country from Iran to the east (?)

fernando 19th September 2019 08:54 PM

A rather cute piece, it is :cool: .

RobT 20th September 2019 02:36 AM

Tonsure Search
 
Martin,
Thanks for the response. I did two searches. In the first search (Chinese tonsure knife), everything I saw was pretty straight or electric. With the second search (antique tonsure knife) I did find a very nice antique tonsure scissor and knife set from Bangkok Thailand. The set was made for royalty and had a lot of gold on it. The knife was slightly back curved.

Fernando,
Thanks for the complement. I agree, it is very cute.

Sincerely,
RobT

Rick 20th September 2019 02:40 AM

Could this have been for cutting the betel nut; or are they too hard to use something like this on.

kronckew 20th September 2019 08:16 AM

Looks like a pruning knife. Similar small ones are used in scoring opium poppies & collecting the head later to get the seeds for next years crop. I recall seeing similar decorations on blades from northeast India near Burma.

fernando 20th September 2019 10:19 AM

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... Looks like a pruning knife. Similar small ones are used in scoring opium poppies & collecting the head later to get the seeds for next years crop...

Makes sense, incurved edge and all.

Prasanna Weerakkody 16th June 2020 05:55 AM

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A collection of folding Knives 17th -18th Century from the Kandy Museum Sri Lanka.

fernando 17th June 2020 10:57 AM

Very nice examples, Prasanna :cool:

Gonzoadler 30th July 2020 08:26 PM

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An old spanish Navaja:

Gonzoadler 30th July 2020 08:30 PM

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And inspired by it, a modern knife made by Carl Julius Herbertz:


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