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Rapier's Delight 11th April 2025 04:50 PM

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Hello all!

Just a few years late to the thread, here is my humble contribution to this lovely gallery of Solingen marks and decorations.

There are two swords I'd like to share.
The first is a typical French Revolutionary/Napoleonic sword with a helmet/Phrygian cap pommel.
Unfortunately, the hilt on this one has been mangled, although I have the feeling it was done purposefully.

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The second is what I think is a Prussian (or other German state) sword that is a sort of clone of a British 1796 spadroon. It has a brass grip and a collapsible half of the guard.

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Rapier's Delight 11th April 2025 04:54 PM

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Here are the details of the decorations on the French sword.

First is the cartouche

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Then we have the "rose" on the spine

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And some details of the engraved decoration, once gilded, on the blade

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Rapier's Delight 11th April 2025 04:59 PM

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And the second sword.

The first two images show the cartouche. I'm especially interested in this one, because it shows the "W." which is also present on one of the swords Bryce shared.

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Then some details of the engraved blade

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Last but not least, the "rose"

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Seeker 24th April 2025 11:51 PM

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I have a sword that seems to fit in this thread. It is a Model 1852 US Naval officer's sword that is marked "W. Clauberg, Solingen" on the ricasso. I apologize that the sword is not easily accessible at the moment and I don't have a photograph of the ricasso, where the marking appears. I purchased the sword in the same auction lot with a Waltham pocket watch whose dust cover bears a matching 1861 inscription to a warrant officer, Charles Jabez Coney, an assistant engineer on the USS Wachusett, which was a steam-sail hybrid powered frigate that was part of the Union Navy's Atlantic Blockading Squadron. Coney later transferred to the USS San Jacinto, which took part in the infamous Trent Affair.

Here are the pix I have available of both the sword and the watch at the moment.

Hotspur 25th April 2025 10:05 PM

Great to see you made a quick migration and the terrific detail on the sword's background.

The spine markings have long needed to be gathered in one place.

In another recent addition, we have a French chevalier type with a wire wound grip. I have to save those for the Weyersburg and Widmann discussions because Widmann used not just copper wire but also Weyersburg blades. It is the mount and mark of the above that keeps it not Widmann. The turk heads are the biggest tell.
;)

My only example posted earlier in the thread.

Cheers
GC

Seeker 29th April 2025 04:59 PM

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Here is a small sword that I recently inherited from a late friend and that I know very little about. There are no roses on the blade itself that I can see, but the front guard, the knuckle guard and other places on the hilt exhibit several flowers, some of which look like roses. I am hoping the experts here can tell me more about this sword and if there is a Solingen connection. Thanks very much in advance.


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