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Ron Anderson 28th August 2010 09:40 AM

The blade of my sword has darkened with age. Otherwise, yes - the hilts are similar.

Ron Anderson 29th August 2010 01:48 AM

Well Dmitry

It appears you are right and I am wrong.

I will check my sword again. I am surprised.

The sword appeared to be much much older.

Regards
Ron

Dmitry 3rd September 2010 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Anderson
Well Dmitry

It appears you are right and I am wrong.

I will check my sword again. I am surprised.

The sword appeared to be much much older.

Regards
Ron

Things often appear older than they really are. We've all been burned. Those who say they haven't, are lying.

fernando 3rd September 2010 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dmitry
Things often appear older than they really are. We've all been burned. Those who say they haven't, are lying.

Sure thing :shrug: .

Ron Anderson 4th September 2010 01:52 AM

Well, thanks, Dmitry.

It could've stayed for years in my colllection without me realising what it really was.

Fortunately, it was not expensive. And I don't really mind hanging to such a thing. Though I would've preferred it be an early Russian briquet.

Regards
Ron

celtan 5th September 2010 07:10 PM

Hola Nando, Ron and Dmitry,

I have three of these babies. One spanish from 1870s, longer. The second italian, from the carabinieri (CA on the area of the ricasso, G and 19 on the upper area of the crossguard ) showing a thick blade spine near the ricasso. The third similar to the second one but with a rather thinner blade , its scabbard being very similar to the CA, although the leather stitches are different. And yet, since the CA blade's spine is much thicker, it won't fit in the third one's, even though they do look very similar.

I haven't been able to ID the third one. Italian?

How does the bersaglieri's differ from the carabinieri's?

Any suggestions?

Best

M

David R 25th October 2013 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dmitry
Little-known fact - the naval attribution of that chest of arms was contested and disproved in a lengthy article in one of the Royal Armouries Yearbooks; I forget for which year, but I can find out.

Apparently the chest was the "Estate Arms Chest" for a wealthy magnate during the Chartist period in the UK.....

Morgan 31st March 2014 11:17 PM

Briquet!
 
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I am piggy backing on this thread because one of the patterns of briquet pictured here interest me as well. Here are some more pics of what might be a german briquet. It has only unit markings on the bottom of the hilt, and also a fullered blade. I have heard that the Russians and Spanish had fullered blade on their briquets sometimes. It has the narrower, less rounded version of the knuckle-guard.There are only 26 ribs on the grip by the way.

Morgan 27th December 2014 08:08 PM

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I am adding to this rather old thread as I have been doing some research on this type of sword due to a briqet/sabre/cutlass I acquired. I originally thought it might be an infantry NCO sword. It has a blade that is 26 and 1/4th inches long and over 1 3/8 inches wide at forte. It has a two finger wide fuller on both sides. I feel that it is a late 18th early 19th century blade. Wonderful look and balance. Great blade! The whole sword is covered in a lacquer that could have either been put on by the museum that owned it (there is a cursive numbering on the forte in white ink that suggests a museum) or perhaps by naval personnel if I ascribe to the idea that this sword was for a ships armoury. I have left the lacquer on at this point. The hilt poses some questions for me. It has no markings on it at all, however the grip has 28 ribs as the French ones do. I compared it to my 1816 briquet and there are differences in dimensions and weight. The 1816 has a larger and heavier hilt. I have posted some pics. One pic is my new briquet/sabre by itself. The other pics are the hilts of both for comparison. The 1816 pattern is on the right in both pics. Perhaps this pattern on my new one will be familiar to someone. I'd like to know what date/nationality the hilt might be from or is they have seen this hilt/blade configuration before and in what context. Worse case scenario is the hilt is "modern" but I'm not sure how to tell.....P.S. I'm a different Morgan than the one on the prior post. :)


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