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Dear david

thank you david, but friends who are here do not understand what I feel if using google translete, but if I am allowed to use Indonesian and Alan or anyone who can translate in Indonesian, I am very grateful if the permit.

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LP

Andi, again, i do realize you have difficulty understanding English, but i have already told you twice that it would be alright this one time for you to post in Indonesian so that we can all understand what you are trying to say. Now i will say it for a third time.
Yes, please make your post in Indonesian so that Alan can translate it.

David, at the moment I am in an area that has very severe internet problems, so it is inevitable that my replies or posts will be slow, or may not even get there at all. However, I have had a PM from La Pagaru, I have responded to this and agreed to translate whatever he writes if I can, I say "if", because there could be local technical terms used that could cause difficulty, but if the explanation he gives is standard Bahasa Indonesia there should be no difficulty in translation at all.

Thanks Alan. I look forward to a better understanding of Bugis keris making, how it is or is not superior to the work of Javanese empus and when and how, if ever, Javanese empus tried and failed to copy such difficult methods. ;)