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hideyoshi
22nd February 2009, 03:27 AM
here are the weapons i acquired recently. thanks to a forum member for the nice panabas. enjoy.

Battara
22nd February 2009, 05:07 AM
W :eek: W! Twistcore out the wazoo!

More pictures please! :D

Ferguson
22nd February 2009, 10:22 AM
My goodness. Those are amazing. Yes, more pictures when it's convenient.
Steve

hideyoshi
22nd February 2009, 03:25 PM
this is a close up shot taken from the panabas. comments on the construction of this blade gentleman? great day, and thnk you all.

kino
22nd February 2009, 04:47 PM
Beautiful!

VVV
22nd February 2009, 04:53 PM
Fantastic!
I am also really curious what XXXXXXX got when you swapped for the Panabas?

Michael

Battara
22nd February 2009, 07:18 PM
double twist core - good for taking impact stress and good for looks when etched. Not too common of a construction for Moro pieces. They also seem to be on earlier pieces and not seen so much on later pieces.

What about those kris and barongs?

Dimasalang
23rd February 2009, 06:57 AM
Wow!! That is sweet! :D :eek:

asomotif
24th February 2009, 12:51 PM
Nice blades !

Interesting pommel on the left moro kris. (the round pommel)

Can we see a close up of that one ?

Best regards,
Willem

rand
24th February 2009, 05:15 PM
Am in total agreement with all the above comments, those are three amazing examples of metalwork. Congragulations on you new acquisitions!!!

Hubba,

rand

hideyoshi
25th February 2009, 02:27 AM
Nice blades !

Interesting pommel on the left moro kris. (the round pommel)

Can we see a close up of that one ?

Best regards,
Willem


additional photos. enjoy

asomotif
26th February 2009, 11:44 AM
additional photos. enjoy

Thanks ! is it wood with ivory inlay ?

Is this a certain style / region ?

Best regards,
Willem

hideyoshi
26th February 2009, 04:20 PM
Thanks ! is it wood with ivory inlay ?

Is this a certain style / region ?

Best regards,
Willem


willem, the handle is made of horn and i think bone inlay. not sure of the region, may be jolo,sulu? just got this blade two weeks ago. let me do some reseach to be more certain. thnks

hideyoshi
11th June 2009, 07:53 PM
new addition to the family...enjoy

kino
12th June 2009, 02:01 AM
Nice addition. Congrats.
Does the Kris with the fewer waves have a twist core blade?

hideyoshi
12th June 2009, 04:03 AM
Nice addition. Congrats.
Does the Kris with the fewer waves have a twist core blade?


Thanks Kino. Congrats to you as well on your new Kris with scimitar blade, that's a real beauty. In regards to your question on the fullered Kris, I have not touched the blade, but it appears no sign of central twist core or what so ever. It would have been nice if it did.

ferrylaki
12th June 2009, 05:08 AM
new addition to the family...enjoy

very nice collection. congratulation to you. I really love them

hideyoshi
13th June 2009, 02:52 AM
very nice collection. congratulation to you. I really love them



Thanks for the compliment.
Here is my complete happy family! enjoy.

hideyoshi
1st July 2009, 10:46 PM
Beautiful Sulu Kris,.. newest acquisition..

hideyoshi
1st July 2009, 10:48 PM
variations of moro twistcore pammor.....

hideyoshi
1st July 2009, 10:52 PM
and more....

Andrew
2nd July 2009, 12:38 AM
Wow. I don't recall ever seeing a double twist-core panabas before. Absolutey lovely.

Thanks for sharing. :cool:

Battara
2nd July 2009, 01:54 AM
Did you get this recent piece from Ashoka Arts? Nice piece.

hideyoshi
2nd July 2009, 02:27 AM
Did you get this recent piece from Ashoka Arts? Nice piece.


Yes, the recent twistcore kris was from Stefan @ Ashoka Arts.



[QOUTE=Andrew]Wow. I don't recall ever seeing a double twist-core panabas before. Absolutey lovely.

Thanks for sharing.



Thanks for the compliment, Andrew. And btw, welcome back....

Ferguson
2nd July 2009, 01:42 PM
Incredible pieces. Could you please post pics of your Gunongs?
Thanks!
Steve

hideyoshi
2nd July 2009, 06:50 PM
Incredible pieces. Could you please post pics of your Gunongs?
Thanks!
Steve



Steve (Gunong Guru), here are the three gunongs in my collections per your request. thnks.

CharlesS
3rd July 2009, 01:20 AM
Is that twist core pattern in the kriss etched after the forging?...in other words can you feel it as in 3-D??

If so it may not be true twist core but etched to imitate it. I have never seen true twist core hold so perfectly within two lines. This is a VERY difficult forging feat. It is also possible the the twistcore pattern was etched AFTER the forging.

hideyoshi
3rd July 2009, 06:11 AM
Is that twist core pattern in the kriss etched after the forging?...in other words can you feel it as in 3-D??

If so it may not be true twist core but etched to imitate it. I have never seen true twist core hold so perfectly within two lines. This is a VERY difficult forging feat. It is also possible the the twistcore pattern was etched AFTER the forging.



Hello Charles, you are absolutely right, the forging flaws on the blade of this kris is so minimal to none, compare to the twist core Moro krises that I have seen. The texture of the central twist core pattern is, as you said, as if in 3-D’s, you can feel the pattern when you touch it. My other twist cores blades though are the same, as if the were soaked in ferric acid for quite sometime, very topographic.

I have a hypothetical question. Let say that this kris was built in late 19th C. or say, 20th C. turn of the Century though it seems that most this Moro twist core krises are from 19th C or earlier. What are the possibilities of this twist core blades being imitated/duplicated at that period of time?

hideyoshi
14th September 2009, 11:45 PM
enjoy.

Battara
15th September 2009, 01:40 AM
Nice barong. The pommel style of the ivory one is unusual.....

hideyoshi
15th September 2009, 02:04 AM
Nice barong. The pommel style of the ivory one is unusual.....


Hello Battara,
Can you help me out with the pommel style? may be newer to the blade?
The handle is consist two separate tubes, lower is made of bronze, and the top is brass. Center ring is silver and the top choker ring is bronze. The blade was stamped with a Chinese character.

Battara
15th September 2009, 04:19 AM
The Chinese character was a sign of quality blade made by a Chinese smith.

The ferrule - does look more recent. Will look up the pommel style and post anything I find.

hideyoshi
15th September 2009, 03:51 PM
The Chinese character was a sign of quality blade made by a Chinese smith.

The ferrule - does look more recent. Will look up the pommel style and post anything I find.


can you give me your assisment on the age of the blade?


btw, the metals on the scabard are the same materials as ferrule. a note one the scabard but deteriorated " captured, bayombong? or bayombony pi". any comment?

hideyoshi
13th March 2010, 12:59 AM
The beauty of Moro twist core steel.

Dimasalang
13th March 2010, 01:08 AM
:eek:

Bucket List:
1) Own a twisted core Moro blade.
:(

Rick
13th March 2010, 01:26 AM
I only got two ... :(
One older, one newer .
But they're enough ..... :)

Oops !
Add one Budiak . ;)
Three .
Still enough . :shrug:

Battara
13th March 2010, 02:44 AM
I have a twist core 18th century Sulu kris,

a double twist core Bagobo sword,

and a double twist core Moro spear.

I could go for more.... ;)

Rick
13th March 2010, 03:14 AM
Isn't gluttony a sin Jose ?? :p :D

hideyoshi
13th March 2010, 06:22 PM
Isn't gluttony a sin Jose ?? :p :D

polygamy is.... :D

blade gluttony :confused: ........just like one of our forum mate said.. "it warms the soul". :)

Battara
13th March 2010, 10:04 PM
Isn't gluttony a sin Jose ?? :p :D
Yes.......I'm a sinner. :o