Beautiful karabelas and more. real or fake?

[erlikhan]

hi. these are offered as all antique, white hilts to be ivory, blacks to be horn, most of the mountings to be silver, some blades to be engraved in Arabic etc.. I wonder your comments , but unfortunately these pictures to be the only sources available.

[Andrew]

With those photos as the sole source of information, I doubt anyone can answer your question, erlikhan. :(

[ham]

Careful, Erlik. Those images were all taken from Petrasch's Die Karlsruher Turkenbeute, the catalogue of a fine collection of Ottoman items in Germany. They were collected after the last siege of Vienna in 1683.

Sincerely,

Ham

[ingelred]

ham, You are correct.
Further informations/items can be seen here:



Best regards, Helge

[erlikhan]

lol! thank you very much. perhaps thats why they are offered with N/R? :D :eek: :D at least it helped me to reach a good online source on the arms which I which i wished to see. The booty from 2nd. Vienna siege.

[tom hyle]

Good that Ham recognized the items; the photos probably weren't such as to distinguish from. I do see an interesting thing though. On the blade of the first sword is a transverse (crossways) dark line. this line forms the center of a "w" in the blade, which is best seen by looking along it. I don't know if this indicates a possibly repaired damage, or a paper-seam in a book used as source for the picture. Something to look at. These auctions with stolen pictures of items the seller doesn't own are scary; caveat emptor, indeed :mad:

[Andrew]

I'm going to lock this thread temporarily so that the staff may discuss how (if) forum policies on active auctions and photos apply.

[Andrew]

I'm afraid this thread will remain locked. I have removed the auction photos and link.

Everyone, please read the Rules thread, and pay particular attention to the section prohibiting the discussion of active auctions.