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migueldiaz
30th December 2008, 03:15 PM
Just came back today from Batangas (with wife and kids), for a fast and furious overnight vacation.

On the way home to Manila, we passed by the town of Taal, in Batangas province. Taal is supposedly where the best balisongs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balisong_(knife)) in the Philippines are made.

And which part of Taal can it be? Well, how about a barangay called Balisong? :D

migueldiaz
30th December 2008, 03:19 PM
Upon reaching Barangay Balisong in Taal town, balisong stores can literally be found left and right ...

migueldiaz
30th December 2008, 03:25 PM
The store I checked out (pics below) appears to one of the oldest and most respected in the area.

Note in one of the pics the raw materials used for the balisong hilt (deer and carabao horn).

migueldiaz
30th December 2008, 03:45 PM
Most of the balisongs cost just anywhere between Usd 2 (6-inch overall length [OAL], i.e., unfolded) to Usd 5 (11.5-inch OAL). The latter model translates to 29 cm in the metric system -- it is the most popular model locally (commonly called balisong veinte-nueve).

But let not the low price mislead anyone -- the quality of these Taal-made blades are excellent. I actually bought seven of them today.

The steel used for the blades are old ball bearings, hence they are very tough.

Occasionally, damascus steel (raw material form) arrives from abroad. And that's the pricey balisong in the line-up. The one shown below (about 8 inches OAL) is being sold for Usd 120.

The karambits hanging on the wall are priced at Usd 20 each.

Lew
30th December 2008, 03:48 PM
Just love the pics. I would be a kid in a candy shop if I were there. :D Too bad these guys don't have a website. :(


Thanks for sharing.

Lew

migueldiaz
30th December 2008, 04:11 PM
Below are the seven balisongs I bought today.

The ones on the left are the 11.5-inchers (overall length, unfolded), and the one on the extreme right is a 6-incher (overall length, unfolded). The other pic is shown with a cellphone to give a sense of scale.

The one on the extreme left by the way is a trainer model. With that you can practice un/folding all you like without cutting yourself. Its hilt is made out of the thighbone of a horse (while the hilt of the rest is made of deer horn and/or hardwood).

As for the balisong in the middle and as mentioned in this old thread (http://216.219.192.186/vb/showthread.php?t=2294), the holes in the blade are purely for decorative purposes.

The blade serration is likewise decorative and was inspired by Rambo's (the movie) jungle knife, according to the old Batangas folks. The deeper indentation on the blade near the hilt is a bottle opener.

migueldiaz
30th December 2008, 04:24 PM
Just love the pics. I would be a kid in a candy shop if I were there. :D Too bad these guys don't have a website. :(
Thanks, Lew.

Yup, I was on a drool-mode too all the time I was there :D As for the contact info of that store I bought from, I'll PM you their number in case you'd like to get in touch with him.

Full disclosure: I don't know the guy from Adam! Just met him today. :)

Ferguson
30th December 2008, 07:17 PM
Man, those look great! I'm so jealous. $5 for a good balisong? Incredible.
Steve

Lew
30th December 2008, 08:12 PM
Yes a $5 foot long :D

migueldiaz
31st December 2008, 01:48 AM
Man, those look great! I'm so jealous. $5 for a good balisong? Incredible.
Yes a $5 foot long :D
Hi Steve, Hi Lew,

Yup the price is unbelievable. In fact I have to ask the storeowner 3 to 4 times as I can't believe my own ears :shrug:

But upon closer examination, the Taal, Batangas pricing of Usd 5 looks logical -- about 30 miles (50 km) away in the neighboring Laguna province, there's this roadside balisong store in Alaminos town (pics below).

I also checked out that store and they sell their balisongs (made also in Barangay Balisong, Taal, Batangas) for Usd 10 each (the veinte-nueve kind).

So it's Usd 5 if it's "farm gate price" right in Bgy. Balisong in Taal, and then the price doubles at a store merely 50 km away.

From Bgy. Balisong to Manila, it's about 120 km (70 miles) away. Am sure that in a Manila store that pays rent in a mall with hired storekeepers (vs. a mom and pop operation in the provinces with no rent & overhead to cover), the same balisong will go for anywhere between Usd 15 to 20.

And make the same balisong cross the Pacific Ocean, then I guess the retail price would already be anywhere between Usd 40 to 60.

Which perhaps is just right given that the crappy smaller balisongs sell in the US for Usd 10 to 20:

Video of a crappy balisong that you can bend with your bare hands! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_OpwTEsAsM)

More balisongs of the Usd 10 to 20 (local US price) kind (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvFeONKbsdg)

migueldiaz
31st December 2008, 01:54 AM
... more pics from the same Alaminos, Laguna store:

migueldiaz
1st January 2009, 07:13 AM
With nothing else better to do on a New Year's day holiday :D I put one of the Batangas balisongs under the acid test -- the piercing of the local one-peso coin via the blade's tip.

The long and short of it is that it's so far so good (pic below).

I think though that I lack the technique because the coin is supposed to be pierced through to the other side. My furious stabbing of the defiant coin pierced the coin only halfway at best! :D

I don't have a good camera with me at the moment thus the pic below is crappy. But the tip of the balisong even after that mindless ;) stabbing episode remained sharp and pointy.

migueldiaz
2nd January 2009, 12:03 AM
I realize that we're supposed to focus here on ethnic weapons.

But I can't help but mention how the balisong has evolved into modern day "tacticool" knives. And some of those are pretty exotic designs that baffles one's imagination!

Most if not all of the images are taken from the blades board (http://pinoyguns.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=425) of a Filipino shooters forum.

migueldiaz
2nd January 2009, 12:10 AM
Here's another interesting modern balisong, obviously inspired by you-know-who (http://www.balisongcollector.com/pabu/lapuLapu8.html), and with real diamonds! :eek:

I'm not into these exotic stuff as it's not my cup of tea ... that is, aside from not having the sufficient funds to even entertain the idea :D

So I am posting all these for academic interest only! :)

harimauhk
21st January 2010, 04:34 PM
Lovely pics of Taal and the balisongs. I'm heading there in two weeks specifically to pick up a bunch. :)

mross
21st January 2010, 06:09 PM
For those that keep track of such things, the blades made from ball bearings are most likely 52100, a very good steel;
Carbon 0.98 - 1.1
Chromium 1.3 - 1.6
Iron Balance
Manganese 0.25 - 0.45
Phosphorus 0.025 max
Silicon 0.15 - 0.35
Sulphur 0.025 max
Reference from metal suppliers online.

Just thinking out loud, I'd love to see these on the swap forum!

ThePepperSkull
22nd January 2010, 06:17 AM
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=37691&stc=1


These bolos are making me droooool


Lovely pics of Taal and the balisongs. I'm heading there in two weeks specifically to pick up a bunch. :)

Would you be willing to do a pickup? I'd be VERY interested in some blades :D

KuKulzA28
22nd January 2010, 01:41 PM
Would you be willing to do a pickup? I'd be VERY interested in some blades :D
Now you've planted a seed in my head as well! :mad:

:D was going to avoid buying more than 1 blade this summer... :shrug:

Dimasalang
23rd January 2010, 06:32 PM
I also went to Taal Batangas and visited Barangay Balisong. This place is a lot smaller then I thought. :D Still had a blast visiting there though.
I visited several of the vendors, but decided to buy most of my blades from a family whos father passed away. The two teenage sons took over their blade making business. Felt sorry for them. :(
Some of the blades I bought. $2-4 a piece.
http://fototime.com/64935DFCD34F5D5/orig.jpg

Lovely pics of Taal and the balisongs. I'm heading there in two weeks specifically to pick up a bunch. :)

Are you a foreigner to the Philippines? Just know, it is legal to have Balisongs packed with your check in luggage, BUT they only allow a certain amount. I forgot the amount, I believe it was something like 6. You might want to ask them.

Dimasalang
23rd January 2010, 06:35 PM
Since we sharing, heres my meager collection of modern day Balisongs. :p

http://fototime.com/F60E38B7EA9A842/standard.jpg


My family stems from Batangas too. hehe

harimauhk
10th February 2010, 02:35 PM
I also went to Taal Batangas and visited Barangay Balisong. This place is a lot smaller then I thought. :D Still had a blast visiting there though.
I visited several of the vendors, but decided to buy most of my blades from a family whos father passed away. The two teenage sons took over their blade making business. Felt sorry for them. :(
Some of the blades I bought. $2-4 a piece.
http://fototime.com/64935DFCD34F5D5/orig.jpg



Are you a foreigner to the Philippines? Just know, it is legal to have Balisongs packed with your check in luggage, BUT they only allow a certain amount. I forgot the amount, I believe it was something like 6. You might want to ask them.

Hi,

Yes I am. I bought two in January and the Customs guy at the airport tried to get a bribe out of me when he saw them in my suitcase. He tried to be discreet in the way he asked me, but I pretended I didn't understand what he wanted and he finally gave up. lol

I will be picking up quite a few items there. What would you guys like? PM me and I might be able to help you out. My first stop will be the guy Miguel bought his from. :)

ThePepperSkull
10th February 2010, 08:23 PM
Expect a PM later today about some pickups, harimauhk!

When are you heading down to taal?

migueldiaz
11th February 2010, 05:20 AM
Houston, we have a problem ... :rolleyes:

There's going to be a presidential election soon here in the Phils. And every election period, there's a total ban on carrying firearms and edged weapons in the country.

Thus, while the storeowners will readily sell anybody balisongs, transporting them to Manila might be a problem because the local police have mobile checkpoints, precisely looking for people carrying firearms or edged weapons without authorization.

And then at the Manila airport, the balisongs will be subject to confiscation if detected.

Dimasalang must have bought his balisongs early Jan. 2010. At that time, the gun (and blades) ban is not yet in force ... or Dimasalang was just lucky. Yes, I think he's lucky because he just recently got a nice Phil. dagger for a very good price ... but that's another story ;) :D

Just thought that I should mention this, so that people will get forewarned (and I sent harimauhk a PM).

Please see also this thread in a Filipino forum (http://www.pinoyguns.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=311815#311815).

ThePepperSkull
11th February 2010, 08:17 AM
ooh, unfortunate.

Thank you very much for letting us know, Miguel. It's most definitely not worth the risk to pick up a couple of balisongs if there is a ban in place.

harimauhk
12th February 2010, 07:15 AM
Hi Miguel,

Thanks. I picked up two in Jan without issue. I don't live in the US and balisongs are legal at home--I'm going to have them mailed out from Batangas directly so I don't have to worry about bringing them back to Manila. :)

Sorry guys, I have no intention of sending balisongs into the US.

ThePepperSkull
13th February 2010, 03:14 AM
Miguel,

I found footage of the Panday Balisong you posted pictures of. This man is FAAST! I have an uncle from Banagas, who carried a beinte-nueve all of his life, and he was nowhere near as fast as this man is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7OjNyYfWx0

harimauhk
13th February 2010, 12:30 PM
Miguel,

I found footage of the Panday Balisong you posted pictures of. This man is FAAST! I have an uncle from Banagas, who carried a beinte-nueve all of his life, and he was nowhere near as fast as this man is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7OjNyYfWx0

Check your e-mail. I hung out with him today and bought some of the best balisongs he had to offer. :) He taught me how he opens them that fast too. He told me he was inspired to work on his openings after someone pulled a balisong on him on a bus in Manila in the '70s. The guy tossed it in the air and it hit the floor, so he bent down, picked it up and opened it the barako way (with two hands). He got really close to Mang Ona, who then pulled out his own balisong, and said something like, "I'm not joking to you!" in Taglish, The guy backed off, sat down and got off the bus at his stop. Ona's biggest worry at the time was the police, but fortunately, nobody called them (this was prior to the era of cell phones).

I also showed him my Emerson Combat Karambit which I carry practically everywhere. He loved it (but not the price). He said he thinks the karambit is the best fighting knife you can get because of the finger ring.

What an experience! I was so happy and proud to meet him and he told me he was happy and proud to meet me! :)

migueldiaz
15th February 2010, 03:38 AM
Miguel, I found footage of the Panday Balisong you posted pictures of. This man is FAAST!Yes sir, the man sure is fast. Reminds one of the samurai who can fell an opponent as he draws his katana ;)What an experience! I was so happy and proud to meet him and he told me he was happy and proud to meet me! :)Looks like you are definitely having fun :) And congrats for the apparent smooth 'operation' you just did back there in Batangas.

harimauhk
16th February 2010, 12:30 PM
Salamat Miguel! Still waiting for the three I bought to show up by EMS, so hopefully they will. I was at Quiapo Church yesterday, so hopefully my prayers will get them here safely.

http://www.fototime.com/18C0825357AE733/medium.jpg (http://www.fototime.com/pictinv/18C0825357AE733)

This was the first picture I took at Barangay Balisong. I took a jeepney there from Lemery after hopping in a van at Buendia LRT.

http://www.fototime.com/3FBCE97648BD56E/medium.jpg (http://www.fototime.com/pictinv/3FBCE97648BD56E)


This is the second stall I visited in Barangay Balisong.

http://www.fototime.com/55DEECCA43AFF10/medium.jpg (http://www.fototime.com/pictinv/55DEECCA43AFF10)

L. Rivera's stall. I really wish I'd gone back for a balicomb or two, but I hadn't had lunch and I was getting a bit dizzy. Next time I'll make sure to try some bulalo.

http://www.fototime.com/21545F15AACD7E2/medium.jpg (http://www.fototime.com/pictinv/21545F15AACD7E2)

A small chapel right by the balisong stands.

http://www.fototime.com/49F707E7F1CAA37/medium.jpg (http://www.fototime.com/pictinv/49F707E7F1CAA37)

Me and Diosdado Ona outside his stand! Unfortunately the other pics I took of his stand didn't get saved--I think I turned the ol' camera off too quickly.


An old American machete Mang Ona had at his store:

http://www.fototime.com/8942342D300EFFB/medium.jpg (http://www.fototime.com/pictinv/8942342D300EFFB)

The kris dagger I bought there and the trainer balisong I got from Mang Ona. It was the last one he had, and he said he didn't want to sell it, but he knew I needed it. Got it for 210 Pesos ($4.60)

http://www.fototime.com/022165981292DFB/medium.jpg (http://www.fototime.com/pictinv/022165981292DFB)

Blades out. I got the kris for 1000 Pesos. They wanted 1500 Pesos for it at Liza Villareal's store, but I made them an offer and they accepted it. It is surprisingly light. The bottom two were purchased in Manila for 400-500 Pesos each. Sorry Miguel, but AFAIK all the handle materials are horse bone. I bought one made with antler--if the other ones make it home safe, I'll put pics up of them.

http://www.fototime.com/8E0A54B7635E6B5/medium.jpg (http://www.fototime.com/pictinv/8E0A54B7635E6B5)

harimauhk
17th February 2010, 03:18 AM
On the right: 23 cm deer antler balisong. In the middle: my only veintenueve. Kamagong inserts. On the right--a kris blade balisong with narra wood and horse bone inserts. :) Assorted balisong keychains all around!

harimauhk
17th February 2010, 03:22 AM
Here they are open and latched. :) On the 29 and the deer antler balis, you can see grooves left from the bearings that were used to make the blades!

harimauhk
17th February 2010, 03:29 AM
Here are pics of the bearing groove on the stag-handled balisong, the actual stag inserts, the narra wood and horse bone on the kris balisong from Liza Villareal and a group shot of my FHM collection, with my balis ordered from left to right chronographically (oldest ones first). :) I put a balisong keychain next to the 29 for scale.

I actually think the grooves from the bearings are interesting from an ethnographic point of view. Who knows what will happen to the beautiful, sleepy town of Taal and the balisong industry in the future?

ThePepperSkull
17th February 2010, 03:38 AM
It's good to know they're not just making ones with the blade serrated at the back and with a bottle opener. you know, the "rambo" ones that were so popular a while back?

I quite like the simpler ones.

harimauhk
17th February 2010, 03:41 AM
The three I bought from Ona were stamped "ONA'S" on the bottom--you can just about make that out in the first pic. I tried to get a pic of the marking, but I couldn't make one. I personally prefer bearing steel and brass (the kris bladed-one is all brass, while the rest have aluminum channels), but Ona carries aluminum-handled 29s with deer inserts and 440c blades. I guess his are good for EDC because of the light weight and corrosion resistance, but I like the durability of the brass and the razor edge I can put on the bearing steel. :) Just have to keep them oiled.

harimauhk
17th February 2010, 03:42 AM
It's good to know they're not just making ones with the blade serrated at the back and with a bottle opener. you know, the "rambo" ones that were so popular a while back?

I quite like the simpler ones.

That's exactly how I feel. I didn't even want a "Rambo" bali. ;) I carry a Victorinox Huntsman for when I need to open a bottle!

Mang Ona is a great guy and a real Batangueno barako! He's in great health for his age too--I think he's in his late 60s! Going to have him make me a matching pair of custom balisongs with clips soon. :)

It might just be the kopeng barako, but I can almost smell the jeep and trike exhaust when I look at this thread!

ThePepperSkull
17th February 2010, 04:12 AM
Yeah, I'm not too enthused about stainless blades. They're okay for EDC folding knives, but even in balisong knives I'd probably want ball bearing/carbon steel of some sort if I wanted one. They'r illegal here so there'd be no use in me having a Balisong for every day carry though.

He looks like one of my uncles, except my uncle is in his early 50's

(also, did you get my e-mail?)

harimauhk
17th February 2010, 05:47 AM
I don't EDC anything stainless aside from my Nalgene and my SAK. :) I replied to your last e-mail last night.

harimauhk
11th April 2010, 06:36 AM
I think though that I lack the technique because the coin is supposed to be pierced through to the other side. My furious stabbing of the defiant coin pierced the coin only halfway at best! :D



The test was performed with the old 1 Piso coin--the new ones are harder I guess. ;) I picked up seven balisongs this time and I'm waiting for them to arrive by EMS and post...hopefully they make it through OK! :)

The Customs guy at the airport said "kris!" when my bag went through the X-Ray--I had a two foot long kris and a bolo in there too, but he didn't comment on the bolo. A few minutes later, he came up to me and said, "you know, the fan knife in your suitcase is prohibited. The other guy said I should confiscate it." I told him I only had one and he said, "it's probably better you check in early. I'll tell the guys that you're a good guy. Don't worry." He didn't ask me for money (I thought he would), which was pretty cool. Apparently lots of balis get seized at NAIA, but I always seem to get through just fine (although I did get asked for cotong (is that the right spelling in Tagalog?) in January.

migueldiaz
11th April 2010, 11:02 AM
The test was performed with the old 1 Piso coin--the new ones are harder I guess. ;) I picked up seven balisongs this time and I'm waiting for them to arrive by EMS and post...hopefully they make it through OK! :)

The Customs guy at the airport said "kris!" when my bag went through the X-Ray--I had a two foot long kris and a bolo in there too, but he didn't comment on the bolo. A few minutes later, he came up to me and said, "you know, the fan knife in your suitcase is prohibited. The other guy said I should confiscate it." I told him I only had one and he said, "it's probably better you check in early. I'll tell the guys that you're a good guy. Don't worry." He didn't ask me for money (I thought he would), which was pretty cool. Apparently lots of balis get seized at NAIA, but I always seem to get through just fine (although I did get asked for cotong (is that the right spelling in Tagalog?) in January.The shipment should get to you I'm sure :)

Because reading the shipping rules thru the balisongs in post no. 31 above, the balisongs don't fall under any of the prohibited items :D

Those guys at the Manila [NAIA] airport customs & security are inconsistent, but they tend to be more forgiving especially to tourists and foreigners.

PS - "kotong" is the usual spelling, but "c" is also ok. but of course kotong is not ok :o

On a related matter, I passed by Lipa City, Batangas yesterday. I took that opportunity to go to the public market to look for some utility bolos.

I was with my wife and both of us know the routine -- I check out the sharp and pointed things, while she checks out the household goods which I think we have enough already. The feeling is mutual as I'm sure all can surmise, and the modus vivendi works out very well :D

The bolos' price range is from US$ 4, to 10 (the latter being the "disubo" [literally, "was made to swallow"], that is, a bolo with a harder steel metal insert along the cutting edge side.

Here's a pic I took of the some of the bolos, with shop assistant taking the opportunity to pose with his goods:

harimauhk
11th April 2010, 12:32 PM
Thanks for posting that pic up Miguel! I was in Lipa twice last week and I never thought to check the palengke...I went to Robinson's looking for Batangas t-shirts with balisongs on them, but they were sold out. :( BTW, that kris and bolo (and the sheath I can see) look like the ones I bought in Taal--I was told by Sir Ona that they are from Pangasinan. The kris I bought was a lot bigger though. Ona was ready to sell me his kris for 500 Piso, but I was like, "No thanks. One basura kris is enough." ;)

I also saw similar kris and bolo on Raon in Quiapo on Friday.

migueldiaz
13th April 2010, 03:28 AM
harimauhk, looks like you've been places :)

i've never been to raon in such a long time. i should check it out soon ...

harimauhk
13th April 2010, 03:42 AM
I bought a santa rosario outside Quiapo church on Friday, and 20 Piso of those roasted peanuts and a Barangay Police t-shirt on Raon. :)

Dimasalang
14th April 2010, 09:59 PM
Quick vent:
Balisongs in the Philippines are too commercialized now. They always have been, but I think it has taken a turn for the worst the past 5-10 years. They are churning out balis left and right, and the quality has seriously gone down and suffered. Even if you find one that is perfectly made, drilled correctly, and proportioned, it is just the pick of the litter of commercialized pieces. And now they are incorporating cheap plastic inserts and aluminum. As I mentioned earlier, I own several that I hand picked myself from Brgy Balisong in Taal. I remember seeing just boxes and boxes of Balis to be shipped out across the Philippines just made for the market. When I say boxes, I literally mean a box filled to the rim with Balis that are not in packaging. Sigh...what ever happened to taking pride in your work. I also have a Bali that I got from my friend who told me his father used to carry(made in the 60s or 70s). The workmanship surpasses all the recently made balis I own. Im curious to know what happened to all those Batangas smiths who put out those high quality bolos back during the revolutionary era. My roots stem from Batangas and I have traveled up and down that province. And I did not see any bolo that would compare to the quality and detail of the bolos from 100 years ago.

My uncle owns a barber shop here in the states and the wait is 2 hours average just to get a cut by him. There are two other barbers in the shop and their is no wait for them. My uncle always told me, the faster you cut, the quality goes down, along with your clientele...nobodys gonna want to come back. People always want quality, and if they want the best they will pay and wait. Thats how you stay in business.

Batangas still puts out higher quality blades then most other known blade towns and provinces in Luzon. But I can see the quality and trade slipping away. I'd hate to see that Batangas blade reputation go down the drain. :(

harimauhk
15th April 2010, 12:53 AM
Quick vent:
Balisongs in the Philippines are too commercialized now. They always have been, but I think it has taken a turn for the worst the past 5-10 years. They are churning out balis left and right, and the quality has seriously gone down and suffered. Even if you find one that is perfectly made, drilled correctly, and proportioned, it is just the pick of the litter of commercialized pieces. And now they are incorporating cheap plastic inserts and aluminum. As I mentioned earlier, I own several that I hand picked myself from Brgy Balisong in Taal. I remember seeing just boxes and boxes of Balis to be shipped out across the Philippines just made for the market. When I say boxes, I literally mean a box filled to the rim with Balis that are not in packaging. Sigh...what ever happened to taking pride in your work. I also have a Bali that I got from my friend who told me his father used to carry(made in the 60s or 70s). The workmanship surpasses all the recently made balis I own. Im curious to know what happened to all those Batangas smiths who put out those high quality bolos back during the revolutionary era. My roots stem from Batangas and I have traveled up and down that province. And I did not see any bolo that would compare to the quality and detail of the bolos from 100 years ago.

My uncle owns a barber shop here in the states and the wait is 2 hours average just to get a cut by him. There are two other barbers in the shop and their is no wait for them. My uncle always told me, the faster you cut, the quality goes down, along with your clientele...nobodys gonna want to come back. People always want quality, and if they want the best they will pay and wait. Thats how you stay in business.

Batangas still puts out higher quality blades then most other known blade towns and provinces in Luzon. But I can see the quality and trade slipping away. I'd hate to see that Batangas blade reputation go down the drain. :(

Interesting viewpoint--thanks for sharing. Yes, I believe balisongs are being made just for the market--the older FHMs I've seen look like they were much better made, and I've seen lots of aluminum used in current balis. I also saw a lot of Chinese balisongs and automatics in Barangay Balisong and Buli, which saddened me a great deal. You can still get quality items made, however, but you won't get them off the rack--you have to custom order them and the price is higher, but IMO it's worth it.

As someone who cuts their own hair and uses a straight razor to get it right, I totally agree with your uncle--quality always wins over quantity IMO.

It looks like the seven balisongs I sent myself didn't make it through--I believe the fat dude at the post office stole them, but it could have been Customs. I'll give PhilPost a call a little later. I sent myself four by EMS and another three by regular mail, so the last three might still turn up.

Dimasalang
15th April 2010, 01:57 AM
^^^
Glad you understand what I was getting at. :) Not that recent Balis from Batangas are all junk...It is just that you can start to see a decline. I still wouldn't mind owning any..even a junked one, I can fix myself.

Good luck with the shipment. I ordered a aluminum training bolo from Manila. Took a hell of a long time to reach me. I got it yesterday and it was opened by customs. Youll know it was held up when you see all the customs and homeland security tape. :mad:

harimauhk
15th April 2010, 02:54 AM
^^^
Glad you understand what I was getting at. :) Not that recent Balis from Batangas are all junk...It is just that you can start to see a decline. I still wouldn't mind owning any..even a junked one, I can fix myself.

Good luck with the shipment. I ordered a aluminum training bolo from Manila. Took a hell of a long time to reach me. I got it yesterday and it was opened by customs. Youll know it was held up when you see all the customs and homeland security tape. :mad:

Was your bolo sent by Regular Airmail or by EMS? I contacted the local post office and they said that the EMS package never even got here. Friday was a public holiday in the Philippines, and then the weekend, but my last EMS package from Manila got here in two working days. Some of the balisongs I had in the EMS package were very special. I sent a very lightweight bali with white bone inserts back. It was one of the two I first bought in January. I also sent back the one with the Eagle tang and the one with the exposed tip (called a busebuse, or circumcised penis, in Tagalog...lol). I also put in the 24 cm one with kamagong inserts (shaped to have 8 sides...forgot what it's called in Tagalog) and the double edged 24 cm with horse bone inserts. :( Three of those balis were in leather sheaths.

At least I got the kris, bolo and the new usa (stag) balisong back home safe.

harimauhk
18th April 2010, 01:04 AM
Got the first four and the last three should be here Monday morning. :) Amazing it took so long when Manila is only a two-hour flight from HK!

harimauhk
7th May 2010, 02:43 AM
All of them made it--the one with the exposed blade is a busese. Still learning. ;)