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celtan
19th December 2008, 07:57 PM
New acquisition FYVP
:)


http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r371/runswithswords/Japanese%20T94%20%20WWII%20Gendaito/DSCN0441.jpg

http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r371/runswithswords/Japanese%20T94%20%20WWII%20Gendaito/DSCN0442.jpg

http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r371/runswithswords/Japanese%20T94%20%20WWII%20Gendaito/DSCN0443.jpg

http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r371/runswithswords/Japanese%20T94%20%20WWII%20Gendaito/DSCN0444.jpg

http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r371/runswithswords/Japanese%20T94%20%20WWII%20Gendaito/DSCN0445.jpg

http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r371/runswithswords/Japanese%20T94%20%20WWII%20Gendaito/DSCN0448.jpg

http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r371/runswithswords/Japanese%20T94%20%20WWII%20Gendaito/DSCN0450.jpg

stekemest
19th December 2008, 09:06 PM
Hi celtan,
Have you checked if the blade is older?
Is there a mei on the nakago?

Peter

celtan
20th December 2008, 12:07 AM
Hi Pete,

Not yet, this is as received. I will start treating the leather, then general debriding and physically cleaning the blade with a 4-0 xxfine brass scrub, then removing the tsuka before polishing an cleaning with choji oil from Kissaki to nagako....

I intend to leave the nagako as polished as the blade, so I can see myself on it.

: )







NAH! Just Kidding, mate. : )

Meruy Xmas!


Hi celtan,
Have you checked if the blade is older?
Is there a mei on the nakago?

Peter

stekemest
20th December 2008, 12:13 AM
Celtan,
Why all the work? Just use some acid to clean it, thats much easier!

Merry Xmas to you too. ;)

Peter

asomotif
20th December 2008, 02:31 AM
Hello Celtan,

I will start treating the leather,

What do you use to threat this old dry leather ?

Best regards,
Willem

celtan
20th December 2008, 04:11 AM
PECARD's Antique Leather Dressing. But it doesn't make miracles...: )

I just don't want it to get worse that it is,

Best

M


Hello Celtan,



What do you use to threat this old dry leather ?

Best regards,
Willem

kisak
20th December 2008, 02:49 PM
Curvature doesn't look like the standard gunto style, and I guess it's a proper hamon we can kind of see there? Fittings look relatively decent too. It'll be interesting to see what those who know more about these things have to say about it, but for the moment I would actually suspect that it isn't a machine made blade, but a more traditional one, of unknown quality.

stekemest
20th December 2008, 06:43 PM
Agree, blade looks traditionally made. Could even be an older one.

celtan
23rd December 2008, 06:13 PM
http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r371/runswithswords/Japanese%20T94%20%20WWII%20Gendaito/CIMG2040.jpg



http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r371/runswithswords/Japanese%20T94%20%20WWII%20Gendaito/shingunto006.jpg

http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r371/runswithswords/Japanese%20T94%20%20WWII%20Gendaito/shingunto038b.jpg

http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r371/runswithswords/Japanese%20T94%20%20WWII%20Gendaito/shingunto040.jpg

http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r371/runswithswords/Japanese%20T94%20%20WWII%20Gendaito/shingunto041b.jpg

celtan
23rd December 2008, 06:18 PM
HELP!

Can anyone read the inscriptions?

Also, a couple Qs:

1. The wood peg holding the hilt together has "gone beyond". How should I substitute it..?
2. I'm trying to fix another tsuka, it's wood halves are held together with a black goo in the caudal (kabuto-gane) area. What is it made of, how should I remove it and with what material should it be replaced with?

Best, and merry Xmas to all!

Manolo


(deleted nagako pics)

http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r371/runswithswords/Japanese%20T94%20%20WWII%20Gendaito/shingunto042.jpg

http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r371/runswithswords/Japanese%20T94%20%20WWII%20Gendaito/CIMG2042.jpg

stekemest
23rd December 2008, 07:28 PM
Hi Celtan,
Can you provide sharper pictures of the inscription please? It's difficult to read kanji, and even more so if the photo is unsharp.

Peter

celtan
24th December 2008, 12:20 AM
Hi Stekemest,

I took about 16 pics with the macro. Those were the best ones!

I'll put some chalk on the inscription, and take a new batch.

Merry Xmas!

M

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DONE!: New Pics
(Hope they aren't upside down..!)


http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r371/runswithswords/Japanese%20T94%20%20WWII%20Gendaito/shinguntonagakoT94001.jpghttp://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r371/runswithswords/Japanese%20T94%20%20WWII%20Gendaito/shinguntonagakoT94013_exposure.jpghttp://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r371/runswithswords/Japanese%20T94%20%20WWII%20Gendaito/shinguntonagakoT94006_exposure.jpghttp://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r371/runswithswords/Japanese%20T94%20%20WWII%20Gendaito/shinguntonagakoT94011_exposure.jpg

celtan
24th December 2008, 03:12 PM
Bump

asomotif
24th December 2008, 09:52 PM
Hello Manolo,

The wood peg holding the hilt together has "gone beyond". How should I substitute it..?

Do you mean the bamboo peg that fixes the Tsuka to the blade by going through the hole in the nagako ? It shoud be bamboo, not ?

celtan
25th December 2008, 12:10 AM
I have no idea of what it should be, this is the first katana that I have actually disassembled.

I mean, I practiced Kendo for a couple years, including the basic iaido katas, but not with a real vintage blade...

How do I get a hold on a piece of bamboo of the exact diameter required?

Hmmm...


Best Regards!

Manuel Luis


Hello Manolo,



Do you mean the bamboo peg that fixes the Tsuka to the blade by going through the hole in the nagako ? It shoud be bamboo, not ?

Maskell
25th December 2008, 02:53 PM
Merry Christmas Manolo & all,

The nakago (tang) inscription reads "ISHIDO TERUHIDE SAKU" Meaning ISHIDO = school, TERUHIDE = sword smiths name, SAKU = made.

While this sword is not dated I found another sword by this smith that is dated DEC. 1938. He is listed as to making both Showato (machine made) and Gendaito (hand forged) blades. The well cut inscription would seem to indicate that this is hand forged.

You should be able to make a mekugi (peg) from a bamboo chopstick if you can get one from a Chinese restaurant though recently I've found they are mostly using a cheap soft wood for chopsticks. If you can get the black goo off the tsuka (grip) traditionally rice glue was used but Elmer's wood glue seems to work fine. Hope this is of some help.

All the best,
Maskell
Jerry

celtan
25th December 2008, 03:08 PM
Hi Jerry,

Thank you very much for your assistance.

Have a pleasant 2009!

Warmest regards

Manolo




Merry Christmas Manolo & all,

The nakago (tang) inscription reads "ISHIDO TERUHIDE SAKU" Meaning ISHIDO = school, TERUHIDE = sword smiths name, SAKU = made.

While this sword is not dated I found another sword by this smith that is dated DEC. 1938. He is listed as to making both Showato (machine made) and Gendaito (hand forged) blades. The well cut inscription would seem to indicate that this is hand forged.

You should be able to make a mekugi (peg) from a bamboo chopstick if you can get one from a Chinese restaurant though recently I've found they are mostly using a cheap soft wood for chopsticks. If you can get the black goo off the tsuka (grip) traditionally rice glue was used but Elmer's wood glue seems to work fine. Hope this is of some help.

All the best,
Maskell
Jerry