Shill?

[ariel]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180297943431#ht_548wt_924

The only bidder bid against himself repeatedly and "won" the item.
Previous "sale" by the seller occured several years ago; since then the account was dormant.
I bet this was a prelude to a real scam.
Keep watching.

[Robert]

Very strange. How can you bid against yourself? I didn't know that was even possible. :confused:


Robert

[David]

Very strange. How can you bid against yourself? I didn't know that was even possible. :confused:
There was a reserve on the blade and the bidder kept bidding until the reserve was met.
I am not convinced of any great conspiracy to come here Ariel. Maybe, who knows. I certainly don't know anything about this specific blade, but this could just be a noobie paying big bucks for a very nice repro. :shrug:

[Robert]

Thank you for the information David. That explains things as I did not know that there was a reserve on the item.

Robert

[trenchwarfare]

There was a reserve on the blade and the bidder kept bidding until the reserve was met.
I am not convinced of any great conspiracy to come here Ariel. Maybe, who knows. I certainly don't know anything about this specific blade, but this could just be a noobie paying big bucks for a very nice repro. :shrug:
I don't see mention of a reserve? Am I missing something? M.P.

[Maurice]

I don't see mention of a reserve? Am I missing something? M.P.
When you click on ,7 bids, wrote behind ,history, , you can see below the winning bid that the ,reserve is met,.

Maurice

[VANDOO]

IT IS POSSIBLE THAT A KNOWLEGABLE BIDDER MIGHT WANT AN ITEM BAD ENOUGH TO CONTINUE BIDDING UNTIL A RESERVE IS MET. BUT IN THIS CASE THE BIDDER HAD ONLY 3 FEEDBACKS AND THE ITEM WAS DEFINITELY NOT A SLEEPER AT THAT PRICE CONSIDERING WHAT IT IS. SO I TOO SUSPECT ULTERIOR MOTIVES IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE IF IT IS REPORTED TO EBAY THAT THE BUYER DID NOT SEND PAYMENT AND RELISTED, THAT WAY THE SELLER WOULD ONLY BE OUT THE LISTING AND RESERVE FEES FROM EBAY, WHICH WOULD BE A SURE SIGN OF DIRTY DEEDS.

I WONDER IF A PERSON COULD DO THIS ON EBAY AND THEN USE THE EBAY BOGUS SALE TO GET INSURANCE ON AN ITEM AT A VERY HIGH ESTIMITE AND THEN LOOSE IT AND COLLECT THE INSURANCE. IF THATS LEGAL I COULD DO IT WITH MY STUFF AND BURN DOWN THE HOUSE AND BE A VERY RICH MAN.

NAH !! I LIKE MY STUFF TOO MUCH TO DO THAT JUST FOR MONEY. :p

[Rick]

I was not thrilled by the quality of the fuller work (if you will) on the blade, especially the terminus .
It looked crude .
Who could really tell anything from the picture quality and limited selection . :rolleyes: :shrug:

[ariel]

O.K., folks, I knew the answer from the beginning and here is the solution to the riddle:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=180301145543#ht_720wt_909

This was a scam. The seller stole the pictures. As I was told by a person from the Russian sword Forum ( and these buggers know every Russian blade on the market, Lord bless them!), the original sword was sold 5 years ago to the Museums of the Moscow Kremlin for $100, 000. You see, Ivan Boyarshchinov's blades are worth their weight in gold. Finding a real, signed Boyarshchinov's sword is like finding the real Sword of the Prophet Mohammed with his personal autograph and affidavit from Allah himself.

The Indian dagger was just a bait, to establish recent positive feedback on an otherwise dormant ( highjacked) account. Now, some drooling jerk will transfer money to an one-time-only bank account and wait for the delivery. I suspect that this sword will be relisted in a week ( after the payment had been withdrawn) and the same sting will go on.

I think the scammer is the same one who perpetrated an identical scam ( 3 listings in a row!) about 3 years ago. I still remember the phraseology: don't ask me about the origin, Paypal only if < $700, Ukrainian source etc.
Unfortunately, we cannot warn the "buyer": private sale....

[katana]

O.K., folks, I knew the answer from the beginning and here is the solution to the riddle:

This was a scam. The seller stole the pictures. As I was told by a person from the Russian sword Forum ( and these buggers know every Russian blade on the market, Lord bless them!), the original sword was sold 5 years ago to the Museums of the Moscow Kremlin for $100, 000. You see, Ivan Boyarshchinov's blades are worth their weight in gold. Finding a real, signed Boyarshchinov's sword is like finding the real Sword of the Prophet Mohammed with his personal autograph and affidavit from Allah himself.

The Indian dagger was just a bait, to establish recent positive feedback on an otherwise dormant ( highjacked) account. Now, some drooling jerk will transfer money to an one-time-only bank account and wait for the delivery. I suspect that this sword will be relisted in a week ( after the payment had been withdrawn) and the same sting will go on.

I think the scammer is the same one who perpetrated an identical scam ( 3 listings in a row!) about 3 years ago. I still remember the phraseology: don't ask me about the origin, Paypal only if < $700, Ukrainian source etc.
Unfortunately, we cannot warn the "buyer": private sale....

Hi Ariel,
I was alittle confused about the sword reference....until I searched 'ended listings' ....link below

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Antique-Bojarshinov-Sword-1829_W0QQitemZ180301145543QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item 180301145543&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A13%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

The UK bidder whom 'won' the dagger, has left feedback... 6 days later, quick delivery from the Ukraine or perhaps never sent :shrug: :rolleyes:

Regards David