keris for comments / sumatra ? / bugis ?

[asomotif]

Please give some comments on this keris ?
It was offered as Bugis, but probably more Sumatra or....

Ps. toli toli I made myself because that part has a restauration with woodfiller :o

[semar]

hello de keris is not a bugi but i think javanees

regards semar

[David]

I agree that the blade is not Bugis, though it may well be Sumatran. If i am not mistaken many Sumatran keris followed certain Javanese pakem for their blades when under the influence of the Javanese kratons.

[kulbuntet]

Is the seluut malay?

[PenangsangII]

the blade looks like Javanese / Javanese influence. The selut / pendokok is peninsular IMO.

[Battara]

This has a toli-toli loop. Does this mean that this piece is ceremonial?

[David]

Ps. toli toli I made myself because that part has a restauration with woodfiller :o
I think you might have missed this in the opening post Jose. :)

[sipakatuo]

IMHO, the blade is Sumbawa/Bima not Sumatra, Lamba Lima (Luk 5). Previous owner might be a Buginese or Macassare. Both Gowa and Sumbawa/Bima kingdoms have family relations. The bottom part of the sarung/sepatu shows authentic Buginese handcraft influenced. It is common to see a blade like this in Sulawesi. It is NOT called TOLI TOLI the correct name is PASSIOSUMANGE means 'Ring of Spirit'. There is a belief that the wearer of the Tappi (Keris) with PASSIOSUMANGE attached will have a greater sense of what is happening in his area/home land. It is also a symbol of high status.

[Marcokeris]

IMHO, the blade is Sumbawa/Bima not Sumatra, Lamba Lima (Luk 5). Previous owner might be a Buginese or Macassare. Both Gowa and Sumbawa/Bima kingdoms have family relations. The bottom part of the sarung/sepatu shows authentic Buginese handcraft influenced. It is common to see a blade like this in Sulawesi. It is NOT called TOLI TOLI the correct name is PASSIOSUMANGE means 'Ring of Spirit'. There is a belief that the wearer of the Tappi (Keris) with PASSIOSUMANGE attached will have a greater sense of what is happening in his area/home land. It is also a symbol of high status.

I agree with your opinon about Sumbawa origin. Thanks for explanation

[asomotif]

Thanks all for your expertise !!! :)


My first sumbawa keris. cool :cool: