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ariel
1st July 2007, 09:59 PM
When you look at it for 2 seconds, your reaction is "A-ah! A beauty!!"
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=008&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=180132306767&rd=1&rd=1
After 5 seconds you realize that it is far too sumptuous...
And then you read the inscription on the blade: the grammar is post 1918 ( absent letters "yat") and the spelling is wrong .
Say whatever you want about Russian Tsarist officers but they were well educated. Young and restless contemporary Georgian fakers are not.
A scam :eek:
Bill M
2nd July 2007, 01:32 AM
Tsarist officers but they were well educated. Young and restless contemporary Georgian fakers are not.
A scam :eek:
HEY! Watch out what you say about us Georgians!
Joe
2nd July 2007, 06:49 AM
But you have to admit, we make a damn fine shashka.
Occasionally.
Ferguson
2nd July 2007, 10:31 AM
In a similar vein, what's up with the Russian saber/bayonet combinations that are flooding Ebay from China? I'm assuming these are reproductions, but why choose that particular one?
http://cgi.ebay.com/WWII-RUSSIAN-COSSACKS-SABER-SWORD-BAYONET-YATAGHAN_W0QQitemZ200122450766QQihZ010QQcategoryZ1 0954QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Steve
ALEX
2nd July 2007, 11:42 AM
Agree with Ariel. I've seen similar copies (and a few with Guzunov' name stamp), and it looks like the workmanship is improving (especially on the scabbard's niello/engraving). It's also fairly nicely done copy :eek: and for non-expert it'll be difficult to establish the authenticity even upon physical inspection, not to mention by just looking at the pictures.
erlikhan
2nd July 2007, 12:10 PM
So,what do you think? is the blade completely new production or just the writing ? As a person having no idea about Russian grammer, I would vote the blade being old, so the writing is, because as far as I see from the pictures, same minor stains and pitting on the blade continues on the inscribed letters too. If the acid work is new, that's odd, i suppose the stains would disappear because of the acid, not?
G. McCormack
3rd July 2007, 04:08 AM
What else suggests this is a fake? The inlays on the handle look correct to me...were they pulled off of something else? Aside from the etching, nothing jumps out at me as 'new' (though of shaskas I know nothing..) :confused:
ariel
3rd July 2007, 04:29 AM
I could state another 5-10 reasons easily, but I already gave the fakers at least one hint now to improve their future forgeries :eek: :eek:
If you are interested, send me a PM.
Chris Evans
3rd July 2007, 09:52 AM
Hi Ariel,
I could state another 5-10 reasons easily, but I already gave the fakers at least one hint now to improve their future forgeries :eek: :eek:
If you are interested, send me a PM.
I am very interested in taking up your kind offer.
Many thanks and
Cheers
Chris
ariel
16th July 2007, 01:02 AM
We have discussed here how a St. Anne's Order " For Bravery" increased the value of Russian swords.
Well, for $75 you can double the price of the shashka you are selling
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=005&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=150139467571&rd=1&rd=1
Not a bad investment... :D
kronckew
16th July 2007, 11:37 AM
they sell the corresponding sword knots as well, have seen numerous ones on ebay, some vendors are honest & note they are repros made in pakistan.
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