Moro weapons

[ariel]

This is a quotation from a Moro weapon identification plaque on e-bay ( I am NOT referring specifically to a particular e-bay item because of the general Forum policy):
Weapons included are:

Capa-capa ax
Patul ax
Two (2) Sankul spears
Three (3) Taming spears in a hand painted Karasak carrier
Six (6) Agong arrows
Gunong
Kalis
Barong
Kampilan
Gayang
Laring
Banjal
Pinsainali
Janap
Susuwat
Sangot
Punal
Kris
Kamrilan
Janaz
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Pira
Utak
Panabas
Bankow
Zahot
Binakoko
Pamarilan
Kangbantuli
Bangkon
Lahot
Karasak
Agong
Taming
Balasiong
I have heard of some and seen some in different collections, but most ( in red) are a complete mystery to me.
Can Moro collectors, please explain what these mean and, perhaps, provide examples.
Thanks.

[Steven C.]

Hm, I do know a Balisong is a slang term in the PI for a butterfly knife. Thats whats most likely meant by balasiong.

[mross]

Kalis = kris(VS definition), from one of the Moro dialects, which one escapes me right now. Which is bad because that is my prefered term.

[VANDOO]

PERHAPS A SEARCH OF THE OLD FORUM USING SOME OF THE TERMS USED ON THE PLACK MIGHT TURN SOMETHING UP. I THINK THERE ARE ALSO SOME POSTS ON THE WEAPONS OF MORLOLAND PLACKS IN THERE ALSO. GOOD LUCK

[Ian]

Ariel:

Some of the terms that you have questions about are alternative spellings of better recognized words (e.g., bangkung, kampilan). Others are taken from the names of weapons used in Borneo or the Celebes. I am away from my references at the present time but will get back to you when I am home again.

You may find some of the unusual terms in v. Zonneveld, especially the ones adopted from Borneo tribes.

Ian.

[Rick]

Dredging this up to add a photo. :D
From top to bottom :

Balacion
Kiya
Lug Log
Mabaui
Bolo

[Nonoy Tan]

Hi Ariel,

"Sankul" or "Sangkil" is a multi-pronged spear used for fishing.
"Taming" is a round wooden shield.
"Bankow" or "Bangkaw" is a general term a spear with a leaf-shaped point

Nonoy

[Nonoy Tan]

Correction ... the "Sapang" IS the multi-pronged spear; while the "Sangkil" is a spear/harpoon with a single-barbed head. Both spears are used for fishing.

[Nonoy Tan]

Here are two other undescribed types of spears from "moroland".

[elevennevele]

Here are two other undescribed types of spears from "moroland".


The bottom one looks like it catches fish. Unless someone knows better, the second example is a tool and maybe the first too.

[xasterix]

Dredging this up to add a photo. :D
From top to bottom :

Balacion
Kiya
Lug Log
Mabaui
Bolo

My apologies for necro-ing this thread. Sir Rick, may I have your source on this? I am greatly interested, thanks.

[DaveA]

As long as you dredged up this thread :)

Here is a web site selling new Filipino traditional weapons. I make no claim regarding authenticity, but it could be a useful site to identify some names and shapes of unfamiliar or rarely seen weapons such as the laring (on Ariel’s list).

[Rick]

My apologies for necro-ing this thread. Sir Rick, may I have your source on this? I am greatly interested, thanks.

Hi, if you'll note post #6 in this thread you will see the examples. :)

About all I can comment is that some Seller had either broken up the examples on a Moro weapons board, or bought a bunch of examples loose and auctioned them off in groups.
This was some years back; I put them in a shadow box on red cloth.

[kai]

Hello Dave,

You may want to reconsider - in the light of the forum rules as well as this recent posting:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpost.php?p=235008&postcount=9

Regards,
Kai

[mross]

I would much more trust the descriptions here;

[kai]

Hello Mike,

I do understand your sentiments. However, I don't think we want this thread become dealers' links galore...

Regards,
Kai

[Battara]

Thanks Kai. Folks we can’t post links to commercial websites as per forum rules.

[mross]

Thanks Kai. Folks we can’t post links to commercial websites as per forum rules.
Sorry bout that, my bad, been awhile since I looked at the rules. :D

[Battara]

I understand. Just a gentle reminder. :)