Origin of this hilt type

[Alam Shah]

Hi all, attached are pictures of a hilt type in the kerdas form.
Where is this form found? Where does it originated from? :shrug:

The hilt cup is not original to the piece, (just a decoration).

Does anyone have information regarding this form, pictures of similar examples... Any help would be appreciated. :)

[Alam Shah]

More pictures to help identify this hilt type. :) :confused:
Based on the stocky size, I think it is a Penghulu (chieftain) type. :shrug:

[Marcokeris]

Could be similar to handle type: "fish that is eating another little fish"

[Battara]

This looks Bugis to me.

[Alam Shah]

Marco,
An interesting thought and a good lead ... I'll check it out. Thanks. :)

Battara,
Yes... It does looks Bugis, thanks.
Any idea which region it was used or originated from? :confused:
Imho, the sheath, is a "chieftain" type, but the aesthetics are different.

Alam Shah.

[Battara]

Possibly Suluwesi?

[Emanuel]

Hello,

In the book Ragam Hulu Keris there is a very similar ukiran on page 75:
"116. Sulawesi Jawa Denam, merupakan bentuk standar di Sulawesi Selatan." It may support the Bugis/Sulawesi thought.

I will scan the page tomorrow and post it.

Regards,
Emanuel

[Alam Shah]

Hello,

In the book Ragam Hulu Keris there is a very similar ukiran on page 75:
"116. Sulawesi Jawa Denam, merupakan bentuk standar di Sulawesi Selatan." It may support the Bugis/Sulawesi thought.

I will scan the page tomorrow and post it.

Regards,
EmanuelThanks Manolo, you've keen eyes :p ... There are many similarities between them. Looking at it closely, there are also many differences as well. :) :shrug:

[Emanuel]

Yup, I do indeed see differences. Some more corroboration on the Sulawesi provenance comes via Frey's book...shows a good number of keris with ukiran very close (though maybe not quite identical :D ) to yours, labelled as Sulawesi-Bugis. Too bad he doesn't provide names for them...nice pics though.

Emanuel

Oops, I get it :o you already know it's Bugis, but need specifics... :)

[Alam Shah]

... Some more corroboration on the Sulawesi provenance comes via Frey's book...shows a good number of keris with ukiran very close (though maybe not quite identical :D ) to yours, labelled as Sulawesi-Bugis. Too bad he doesn't provide names for them...nice pics though.Thanks again Manolo for the effort. ;) The thing is, it's close but none is an exact match, at least in terms of design or aesthetics... hmmm...

... Oops, I get it :o you already know it's Bugis, but need specifics... :)Sorry :o ... I should have mentioned that I know it's probably Bugis, but from where? Sulawesi? Riau-Lingga? Sumatra? Peninsular? or elsewhere...:shrug: