Is This kampilan from the mandaya s ???

[Dajak]

Is this kampilan from the mandaya s

Ben

[Battara]

Interesting piece. I would put the scabbard at being T'boli according to the carvings. Moros, especially the Maranao and Maguindanao are close to the T'boli regions and have influenced them.

[Dajak]

Hi Battara the reason I was thinking this because this display
they use the same coluors


http://www.arscives.com/historysteel/images1/6.mandaya-weapons.jpg


Ben

[Battara]

The colors are used across the region, from the T'boli and Bagobo in the south to the Kalinga and Bontoc way in the north.

By the way, the Mandaya dagger is mine - I was surprised to see it - it must be the museum display. :D

[kai]

Hello Ben,

Could you please post a pic of the whole blade? Thanks!

Regards,
Kai

[Dajak]

Hi Kai here is the full blade


Ben

[Ian]

Hi Ben:

You have a marriage of styles here, although probably combined in a host culture rather than by someone creating something for sale.

The handle is Moro (probably Maranao) in form. The short kampilan styled blade is commonly found among several Lumad groups (notably the T'boli and Bagobo -- the latter including the Tagakaolu near Davao City) and the scabbard, as mentioned by Battara, is Lumad also (probably T'boli). The traditional Mandaya blades do not include a kampilan form according to historical sources.

Overall it appears to be a Lumad piece, probably T'boli, but with a Moro handle.

Interesting piece.

Ian.

[Dajak]

Hi Ian thanks it is for me difficult the weapons from the Philipinne and different tribes


What makes this an moro handle ???

Ben

[Battara]

HI Ben,

Moro kampilan handles usually have the this what I would call crocodile mouth and hair with a thick crossguard. Some of these are found in Borneo also (where Moros also live). There are other variations (just search for kampilan on this site) as Cato mentions, but this is the most common and uniquely Moro. Other kampilan blades can be seen on Lumad pieces but without the Moro hilt (usually with Lumad hilts).

[kai]

Thanks, Ben!

I'm not sure but also the blade is very close to Moro kampilan blades. Could this be a cut-down Moro blade to suit the (T'boli?) owner's preference for shorter blades of the klewang family?

Regards,
Kai

[Dajak]

Hi Kai I don t now much about kampilans so it could be

Here another kampilan that have not a common point the scabbard off this one has carving they use in Borneo


Ben

[kai]

Here another kampilan that have not a common point the scabbard off this one has carving they use in Borneo
Sounds very interesting, Ben!

By all means, attach a pic or two next time... ;)

Regards,
Kai

[Dajak]

I just did


Ben