What's the big deal about Kirk Narduban?

[ariel]

The mechanical qualities of crucible steel ( wootz) have been already discussed extensively.
No doubt, it is beautiful. Particularly, everybody is very excited about the blades with Kirk or Kirk/Rose patterns. However, these are just embellishments. The swordmaker chiselled straight lines alone or interspersed them with chiselled circles and continued hammering the blade to get the above patterns. Of course, that added time to the manufacture of the blade, but no additional positive mechanical properties ( if anything, it might have conceivably only weakened the blade).
These patterns are not much different from chiselled panels, koftgari inscriptions, etched or incised patterns etc: they are just meant to make the blade prettier, no more.
Why are we going ga-ga every time we see the Kirk-ed blade? What is so special about this particular embellishment?

[Tim Simmons]

Something that has always puzzled me. :D

[spiral]

The symbolism of the 40 steps to heaven or somesuch to the more devout belivers was perhaps originaly a factor?

A man can be rather a follower of fashion on occasion. ;)

Spiral

[ham]

Perhaps because it requires a great deal more skill and knowledge of technology than any other technique in sword-making. Consequently, it is far rarer.

Ham

[Jeff D]

Beauty as always is in the eye of the beholder. This topic also reminds me of a question. What is the earliest date that we see the "Kirk Narduban" formation. Even though Kindi may have talked of the pattern, I have only seen rudimentary formations on blades dated to the early 17th century, and well formed formations by the late 17th century. Does any know of any earlier?

All the best
Jeff

[Jens Nordlunde]

Beauty as always is in the eye of the beholder. Well said Jeff:).

I can’t answer your question, although I have a feeling that the technique is older than 17th century, but maybe Ann can help us, as she has been excavating in the area of Marv.

Jens

[Ferguson]

Perhaps the same reason that I like looking at a beautiful woman? :) She may not be more worthy, or useful or good. But I will still enjoy looking. :rolleyes:

Steve