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Spearcollector
1st October 2006, 05:33 PM
Hello,
I'm a new member.
Can you help me with this short african spear.
the spear is 116 cm long.
I think it's 19 century.
I have looked for more information about this one, but I can't find it.
I would like to know more about.
Thanks.
Lew
1st October 2006, 08:04 PM
Hello,
I'm a new member.
Can you help me with this short african spear.
the spear is 116 cm long.
I think it's 19 century.
I have looked for more information about this one, but I can't find it.
I would like to know more about.
Thanks.
Welcome Spearcollector
Well this is how I see it. Your spear seems to be a hybrid the shaft is Kuba but the head seems to be a later addition from another spear. It still is a nice example though. Here is a similar one of mine.
Lew
Freddy
1st October 2006, 08:27 PM
Welcome to the forum, Spearcollector.
Lew is right when stating that this spear is a 'marriage'. the shaft looks much older than the blade. I haven't seen this type of spearblade, yet. I'm still young, though :p
But, Lew, the shaft is not Kuba. It's a typical shaft used by the Ngbandi, Bati and/or Benge living in northwestern Congo.
Here is a Ngbandi spear in my collection :
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/keris_hanuman/NgbandiYakomaNgombeDokoMbudja-W11-04.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/keris_hanuman/NgbandiYakomaNgombeDokoMbudja-W11-04-detail1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/keris_hanuman/NgbandiYakomaNgombeDokoMbudja-W11-04-detail2.jpg
Tim Simmons
1st October 2006, 08:34 PM
I wonder if this is not a marriage between Central Africa/Congo and west or east Africa. I am taking a guess at perhaps areas west and north to the Sahara.
Spearcollector
1st October 2006, 09:07 PM
Thanks for the reactions.
The spear blade looks younger because it is cleaned.
The shaft is a lot shorter than a normal ngbandi spear.
I'm very sure that the shaft and blade belongs together.
Maybe I must ask it to the African museum of tervuren.
Thanks anyway.
Flavio
1st October 2006, 09:18 PM
I had a short ngbandi spear, now sold, that was long 120 cm.
Spearcollector
1st October 2006, 09:29 PM
Hi,
The second and the third spear on this photo, are they ngbandi spears?
You can also see the short spear.
This is a very small part of my spear collection.
Mapico1
1st October 2006, 09:54 PM
Hi G and welcome!
To me 1,2,3,4,6,8,10 are Ngbandi spears or related.
5 is Lega,7 is Boa,9 is Lokele,last seems Saka.
Small one......let's leave that one open for a while..... ;)
Lew
1st October 2006, 10:00 PM
Hi G and welcome!
To me 1,2,3,4,6,8,10 are Ngbandi spears or related.
5 is Lega,7 is Boa,9 is Lokele,last seems Saka.
Small one......let's leave that one open for a while..... ;)
I must tip my hat to you and Freddy I am still learning.
Lew
Tim Simmons
2nd October 2006, 06:52 AM
I take it all back :o . Seeing then all together like that I am sure its a good one. It just at first glance looked a little "unbalanced ?" I am sure a spear was a personal thing. The blade may have Saka influences. We have no idea what the users requirements were. Remember-
"there is always something new coming out of Africa" Pliny. :cool:
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