ethno sword cane with curious handle

[francantolin]

Hello dear members,
I just receive this intersting curious sword cane,
The two first pictures were from the seller.

It seems have it’s age ,
Îm akready trying to clean it the best I can

I wonder about the origin :
Afghan ?
Indian ?
Berber / Algerian ?

And about the use ( especially fot the curious handle shape:

A fakir/ dervish kutch ? ( but it’s big, 90cm high)
A status stick more than a walking stick ?( bottom ferule is made of silver )
A drum major mace/stick with concealed blade ?

Glad to hear some news.
Kind regards

[francantolin]

Strong green oxydation but seems silver wires,

I first thought it was brass or just fabric / plastic

[francantolin]

Here it is,
Now that I can better see the silver decorations,
I think it can come from South Arabia / Yemen.or Soudan
A staff for patriarch hadj man....
sword size, 83cm without scabbard

Symbol for the two half sphere ?
Maybe something missing în the small holes

[francantolin]

Or an obvious phallic shape
For an old ethno pimp staff 😅😅

[Tim Simmons]

Looks golden triangle to me.

[Bob A]

The silver work is spread about broadly; the hilt design is unique in my experience.

ID may reside in the nature and source of the sheath and the woven bits, and the blade.

[Sajen]

It's from Yemen, the silver work is typical. Very nice item, I had never seen something similar before.

[francantolin]

Thank you !! 🙏🙏

[Sajen]

Thank you !! 🙏🙏

The thank has to go to a friend who noticed the silver work! ;)

[Bob A]

It's from Yemen, the silver work is typical. Very nice item, I had never seen something similar before.

I've seen similar ornaments presented by an Afghan gentleman, who attributed them as Kazakh, though I was given to understand that the origin was Central Asian, rather than from the Caucasus.

[Jim McDougall]

Not too long ago I posted on the well known sword canes, sticks of Victorian England which became popular as weapons of self defense for gentlemen. However these met with a great deal of consternation regarding the strict codes of gentry, deeming them unbecoming as 'hidden' weapons.

It seems these became popular among officers during the British Raj in India, though it is unclear exactly what influences may have diffused the idea into that context, or from which ethnic or regional factors might have done so.

It seems fairly well known that concealed dagger blades were present in various Indian weapons such as war hammers, battle axes etc. and these features were also known in Persian arms so presence throughout Central Asia and the Middle East as well as the Orient seem likely.

Whatever the case, the popularity in Europe seems to have been largely from influences in India.

These are most intriguing weapons, but difficult to acquire or transport due to legal issues as concealed weapons.

This example is British, with Solingen rapier blade (Toledo's were highly favored due to British fascination with fencing from mid 19th c) and termed a Malacca (for the source of the bamboo used for sheath).

[Sajen]

I've seen similar ornaments presented by an Afghan gentleman, who attributed them as Kazakh, though I was given to understand that the origin was Central Asian, rather than from the Caucasus.

Hello Bob,

I think that it is rather clear that we see the same silver work here. ;)

Regards,
Detlef

[francantolin]

I found these yemeni swords,
One with a look-like finial sphere pommel,
The others who shows a silver strip decoration all around
the scabbard typical of Yemen or Oman work.
The last ́’providencé’ picture coming from a 2008 thread about yemeni swords
showing a sword with crossed wires decorations on the scabbard.

I wonder in wich bad wet conditions ́’miné’ was kept for turn the silver wires all ́’flash’́ green; low grade silver with a lot of copper ?