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Will M
13th November 2025, 08:24 PM
The sword is an 1816p French line cavalry sword by Klingenthal.
It has a later scabbard to match the shortened blade now at 35 1/2". The scabbard is plated and has only one ring band and is correct for the current blade length.
As I understand these 1816p were modified for use by the Germans for Ulhan regts.
Any additional information would be appreciated.
midelburgo
17th November 2025, 09:03 PM
The sword is an 1816p French line cavalry sword by Klingenthal.
It has a later scabbard to match the shortened blade now at 35 1/2". The scabbard is plated and has only one ring band and is correct for the current blade length.
As I understand these 1816p were modified for use by the Germans for Ulhan regts.
Any additional information would be appreciated.


There was somebody in swordforum who used to write quite many posts on these captured swords, no idea of the nick anymore, but he mentioned often that his main source was a German language forum on blankewaffen.
Pertinax
17th November 2025, 09:53 PM
In 1870, Alsace-Moselle was annexed by Germany. German troops occupied Klingenthal and seized all the weapons there.
Perhaps these sabers were stored in warehouses and captured.
Will M
25th November 2025, 12:59 AM
20 ga brass wire worked well as a replacement for the lost wire on the grip. It takes a few yards due to the tight twist.The wire should dull down to match the remaining original wire, though using blueing would quickly darken it up.
Jim McDougall
2nd December 2025, 12:21 PM
In 1870, Alsace-Moselle was annexed by Germany. German troops occupied Klingenthal and seized all the weapons there.
Perhaps these sabers were stored in warehouses and captured.

This is valuable information Yuri, and interesting to see the potential for the even later use of these sabers by Uhlan regiments. The single carry ring I think suggests use later in 19th into 20th c. so perhaps WWI.

I hope more info will come in regarding the markings, which do seem to concur with German use IMO.
Will M
2nd December 2025, 04:48 PM
Virtually all the lettering on the blade spine has been removed. The L in an oval dates it between 1821-1829 manufacture. I have an identical unaltered one dated to 1820.
It would be interesting to find a late 19th to early 20th century Ulan regt photo with this sword being worn. I'm confident photos do exist, it's just finding them!!