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Sajen
20th July 2024, 11:40 AM
This two pieces will enter my collection!
Battara
28th July 2024, 05:19 AM
Very nice. Especially after a clean up! Congratulations!
Ian
28th July 2024, 07:25 AM
Sajen, lovely pieces. Are the scabbard mouths ivory?
Sajen
28th July 2024, 03:03 PM
Hello Jose and Ian,
Thank you! :cool: And yes, the scabbard mouths are from ivory.
I will post pictures soon as I have received them and have given them some care.
Regards,
Detlef
danny1976
2nd August 2024, 09:08 AM
Hello Detlef,
Nice catch, curious how the look after cleaning
Sajen
2nd August 2024, 04:46 PM
Hello Detlef,
Nice catch, curious how the look after cleaning
Hi Danny,
Thank you! I received them yesterday. The auction house had interchanged the scabbards and one scabbard mouth was once broken and got reglued, the blade which looks more worse on the picture is the better one and I've tried to clean a window, it's time consuming but the blade will look great when complete cleaned, it has inlays at the crown (the most is gone), the spine and on the blade, also here is the most gone.
Both are nicer than the picture suggests. Some first pictures will follow.
Regards,
Detlef
Sajen
2nd August 2024, 06:28 PM
Here are some first pictures, one scabbard is cleaned, the other one I've cleaned a window from dirt and grease, the blades I've started, by the one with inlays only a window.
When I finish the work I will post further pictures.
Pendita65
3rd August 2024, 08:02 PM
Hi Detlef,
A beautiful catch indeed a Sikin is also on my wish list.
Regards, Martin
asomotif
3rd August 2024, 11:41 PM
Nice cath Detlef.
A sikin with a pentagram is still on my wish list.
Marc M.
4th August 2024, 09:24 AM
Hi Detlef
Very nice Sikin, although I have no knowledge about it.
How do you clean the blades?
Regards
Marc
Sajen
4th August 2024, 10:12 AM
Nice catch Detlef.
A sikin with a pentagram is still on my wish list.
Hi Willem,
Thank you! :cool: The blade with gold inlay and pentagram was an extra surprise when I received them. It wasn't visible on the auction picture.
Regards,
Detlef
Sajen
4th August 2024, 10:19 AM
Very nice Sikin, although I have no knowledge about it.
How do you clean the blades?
Thank you Marc! I clean them with sanding paper from coarse to fine.
They will stay in nice company with my two other sikins! ;)
Regards,
Detlef
Sajen
4th August 2024, 10:22 AM
A beautiful catch indeed a Sikin is also on my wish list.
Hi Martin,
Also to you, thank you! I am sure that a nice sikin will cross your way in short or a little bit longer! ;)
Pendita65
4th August 2024, 10:33 AM
Hi Detlef,
Yes I am sure one day.
Regards, Martin
danny1976
4th August 2024, 08:50 PM
Hi Detlef,
The look already better than on the photos from the auction house.
The inlay is a nice bonus!
I really like the carving on the bottom of one of the scabbards.
Battara
5th August 2024, 02:46 AM
Nice work Detlef!
Sajen
5th August 2024, 08:34 PM
Hi Detlef,
The look already better than on the photos from the auction house.
The inlay is a nice bonus!
I really like the carving on the bottom of one of the scabbards.
Hi Danny,
Both have potential but both need a lot of attention. I will work on them and will post pictures when they look like I want to have them! :D;)
Regards,
Detlef
Sajen
5th August 2024, 08:39 PM
Nice work Detlef!
Thank you Jose but until now I've only cleaned and cared for the scabbards and handles and started to clean the blades, there is still a long way until they look like I want to have them.
Regards,
Detlef
Maurice
25th October 2024, 04:05 PM
Hi Detlef,
Both beautiful sikin panjangs.
As you know, these blades wandered through the regions upnorth (Aceh, Alas, Gajo, even in the Batak regions).
In the smaller sikin you can clearly see the 'evidence' of such wandering.
The motif at the tip of the scabbard is Gayo style, while the sikin itself and the other motifs carved in the scabbard are Achenese. I like these kind of 'crossculturals' a lot.
Regards,
Maurice
Sajen
27th October 2024, 05:53 PM
Hi Detlef,
Both beautiful sikin panjangs.
Thank you Maurice! :)
In the smaller sikin you can clearly see the 'evidence' of such wandering.
The motif at the tip of the scabbard is Gayo style, while the sikin itself and the other motifs carved in the scabbard are Achenese. I like these kind of 'crossculturals' a lot.
Thank you for answering my never asked question if someone is familiar with the carving at the tip on the smaller one. So it's Gayo! :) Are you able to show similar motives?
Regards,
Detlef
Maurice
27th October 2024, 08:52 PM
Thank you Maurice! :)
Thank you for answering my never asked question if someone is familiar with the carving at the tip on the smaller one. So it's Gayo! :) Are you able to show similar motives?
Regards,
Detlef
Hello Detlef,
This one encounters your motif at the tip of your sikin sheath the most.
Regards,
Maurice
Maurice
27th October 2024, 08:57 PM
Another one that resembles the motif.
Sajen
27th October 2024, 09:34 PM
Thank you very much Maurice! :)
Regards,
Detlef
Sajen
30th December 2024, 10:40 AM
It's the same sword, first picture shows it on the auction house photo and like I have received it, second picture after a short and superficial clean up with two windows polished in, the third picture after a better but not finished clean up.
Sajen
30th December 2024, 11:01 AM
Details without flash. Like you can see at the above posted first picture had the blade active rust when I received it, the pitting let by the dark areas is still visible, the bolster area was a challenge to clean, the scarred surface near the tip is not rust pitting, it's either from the original forge finish or from a later straightening from the blade tip!? Any suggestions? The other side has a flat surface.
Sajen
30th December 2024, 11:07 AM
The blade tip surface seen from the other side.
Sajen
30th December 2024, 11:15 AM
Most of the inlay work is gone, sadly.
Maurice
30th December 2024, 11:33 AM
Hi Detlef,
Nice job with cleaning the blade.
It looks so much better without the active rust and pitting. It also shows a nice lamination!
I have no clue about the surface of the blade near the tip.
The missing gold inlay (partly or totally) on several old sikins is more common.
It once looked like this in its best days....
Always keep in mind that they were all warriors, so war related damages and missing parts can occur :)
Kind regards,
Maurice
Pendita65
30th December 2024, 01:29 PM
Detlef,
you did an outstandig job on the Sikin, and i love how it came out of the TLC
Regards, Martin
Maurice
30th December 2024, 02:54 PM
PS, and a photo of my sikin Peusangan with remnants of gold inlay, mostly gone...
Pertinax
30th December 2024, 09:53 PM
Good job Detlef!
Happy New Year! :)
Sajen
30th December 2024, 10:11 PM
Good job Detlef!
Happy New Year! :)
Thank you Juri! :) All the best for the new year!
Sajen
30th December 2024, 10:14 PM
Detlef,
you did an outstandig job on the Sikin, and i love how it came out of the TLC
Regards, Martin
Thank you Martin! :)
Best regards,
Detlef
Sajen
30th December 2024, 10:20 PM
Nice job with cleaning the blade.
It looks so much better without the active rust and pitting. It also shows a nice lamination!
I have no clue about the surface of the blade near the tip.
The missing gold inlay (partly or totally) on several old sikins is more common.
It once looked like this in its best days....
Always keep in mind that they were all warriors, so war related damages and missing parts can occur :)
Hi Maurice,
Thank you! And yes, I've handled several sikins with missing gold inlays. But it's nice when it is still there like in the one from the example you show.
Best regards,
Detlef
Ian
1st January 2025, 04:32 AM
Detlef, I think the alteration to the tip is a fix for a bent blade at that spot. It may well have been done by a blacksmith or the owner, rather than a panday. The repair looks village quality at best, and not particularly "professional."
Sajen
2nd January 2025, 05:49 PM
Detlef, I think the alteration to the tip is a fix for a bent blade at that spot. It may well have been done by a blacksmith or the owner, rather than a panday. The repair looks village quality at best, and not particularly "professional."
Hi Ian,
That was my thought as well but now, after the cleaning I think it has to do with the lamination, the dings go confirm with the lamination. I will show it by pics as soon as I am ready with the cleaning and the light it allows here in Germany.
Regards,
Detlef
Marc M.
31st March 2025, 09:41 AM
Out of my comfort zone, a sikin panjang, Sumatra. I have a weakness for simple straightforward choppers. Oal 72.5 cm, laminated blade, horn handle with a large dry crack. Should I do anything to keep the crack from getting bigger?
From the seller's photos, I suspect it was a laminated blade. Upon receiving the blade cleaned up and tried to etch it. The etching product I had left was old and did nothing. Tried with household remedies, vinegar and lemon juice. Vinegar did little or nothing, lemon juice more. Two days of regular rubbing with lemon and a soft etched result.
Regards
Marc
Maurice
1st April 2025, 10:03 AM
Thank you Maurice! :)
Thank you for answering my never asked question if someone is familiar with the carving at the tip on the smaller one. So it's Gayo! :) Are you able to show similar motives?
Regards,
Detlef
Hi Detlef,
I recently added a Gayo keris, wit a wooden hilt with similar carved motifs.
Regards,
Maurice
Maurice
1st April 2025, 11:52 AM
And on this hilt the same motif, but more elaborately carved.
Sajen
2nd April 2025, 09:05 PM
Oal 72.5 cm, laminated blade, horn handle with a large dry crack. Should I do anything to keep the crack from getting bigger?
Hi Marc,
To find a sikin panjang without a cracked handle is nearly impossible. I have four in my possession and all four have an age crack, small ones and bigger ones. all four handles are stable to the blade.
Just oil the handle from time to time with for example linseed oil.
Regards,
Detlef
Sajen
2nd April 2025, 09:48 PM
And on this hilt the same motif, but more elaborately carved.
Hi Maurice,
I should have known this! :D I have a wooden Gayo keris handle already long in my own collection. Thank you for the hint! Sometimes you have the obvious things in front of your eyes but don't make your conclusions. :rolleyes:
Best regards,
Detlef
Marc M.
3rd April 2025, 01:47 PM
Hi Marc,
To find a sikin panjang without a cracked handle is nearly impossible. I have four in my possession and all four have an age crack, small ones and bigger ones. all four handles are stable to the blade.
Just oil the handle from time to time with for example linseed oil.
Regards,
Detlef
Hi Detlef, thanks for the tip. The laminated blade does not show up well in the photos, New photo slightly better but not as it is.
Regards
Marc
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