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jagabuwana
20th May 2024, 06:42 AM
How does a dhapur get its name?

Relatedly, is there a relationship between the name of the dhapur and the kerises physical form, or with the tuah of the dhapur?

I suspect this might differ on a case-by-case basis, so I'll throw out some examples to get the ball rolling to see if anyone can offer a meaning or reason behind the given name.


Dhapur tilam upih (noun) - translated as "bed made of the leaf sheaths of the areca palm"
Pasupati (proper noun) - an incarnation of Shiva
Jangkung (adjective) - tall or langky person, or Robson also has another definition of "to guard from afar, watch from a distance/"


Do feel free to offer any others.

JustYS
20th May 2024, 11:43 AM
Hi Jagabuwana,

Interesting subject.

I’ll play with my limited knowledge.

Dhapur Karna Tinanding.

Karna Tinanding is an act in Mahabharata story depicting a duel between Karna and Arjuna.

Karna was born with golden earrings, hence his name which means ear.

Probably that’s why Dhapur Karna Tinanding has twin Kembang Kacang.

A. G. Maisey
20th May 2024, 01:20 PM
Brojol > lower on one side than on the other side.

Well --- it is, isn't it?

its a keris.

For me, the real question is who gives/gave a dhapur the name, the maker? the person for whom made? public opinion?

We'll never know I guess, but half a dozen dictionaries and a cold, wet winter might produce a lot of possible explanations of names.

That then opens up other possibilities:- noble explanations? what dialect? is the name found in Kawi?

This is a research project for somebody, maybe another degree in the results.

Then we have all the Little Red Herrings.

In Old Javanese we have "pasupata", & we also have "pasupati".

Pasupati is from the Sanskrit, & it means "lord of creatures" & the name actually refers to Rudra, who later developed into Siwa.

However, pasupata has a couple of meanings in Old Javanese, it can refer to a follower of Rudra/Siwa, & it was also the name (in Javanese) of the pashupatastra (astra means "weapon" so> "pashupat" weapon) that Siwa gave to Arjuna.

Now, this might be pretty inconvenient if one happens to be a philosopher, because it then causes one to consider the nature of the weapon that was in fact given to Arjuna, a weapon that probably Arjuna never used, perhaps because it was so powerful.

Cold, wet, winter.

jagabuwana
3rd June 2024, 01:57 AM
Thank you JustYS and Alan for your thoughtful responses.

As usual I (gratefully) get more than I bargain for.