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drac2k
5th September 2023, 05:25 PM
I haven't see anything like this with a strange guard;also marked W8&Co ?
Can anyone identify this sword?
kai
5th September 2023, 08:49 PM
also marked W8&Co ?
W & Co
Jerseyman
5th September 2023, 09:21 PM
Weyersburg & Co?
drac2k
5th September 2023, 09:27 PM
Maybe W8 c Co, ?
Bob A
5th September 2023, 11:28 PM
Maybe W8 c Co, ?
Pretty sure that's supposed to be an ampersand. (&)
corrado26
6th September 2023, 07:26 AM
Weyersburg & Co?
The firm is called "Weyersberg & Co"
M ELEY
6th September 2023, 08:15 AM
Reminds me of mid-19th c. 'pioneer' swords. There were many different 'styles'. Yours looks like a cross between a pioneer saber and an ecole de mars type...
M ELEY
6th September 2023, 10:16 AM
Here's a pioneer/sapper's short sword with similar pattern blade-
drac2k
6th September 2023, 02:38 PM
M.ELEY, do you have another sword that you meant to post. I get the reference to the "Ecole de Mars," in regards to the guard and also it does look like a light Pioneer Sword, possibly Austrian. I haven't ruled out that it is a Society sword for a group such as the ODD FELLOWS, etc., except that it is too plain and they usually rounded or cut off the ends; I guess something about drinking and sharp tips don't mix.
M ELEY
7th September 2023, 05:49 AM
Hello drac2k. Yes, unfortunately the Austrian sapper's sword I was unable to post. The blade on it was nearly exact, being the gladius pattern, but the hilt was still not a match. Hope we can all solve the mystery!
drac2k
7th September 2023, 01:21 PM
Thanks M.ELEY, I think we are on the right path; or maybe I'll just do what all of the Old Timers do at Miltaria shows when they don't know what something is............call it" Confederate," LOL.
M ELEY
8th September 2023, 02:28 PM
:D:D Brilliant!
not2sharp
9th September 2023, 12:12 AM
I like it….
I suspect the key to this might be the handle pins. I feel like I have seen similar screw fittings on some bayonets.
N2s
not2sharp
10th September 2023, 04:50 PM
I like it….
I suspect the key to this might be the handle pins. I feel like I have seen similar screw fittings on some bayonets.
N2s
The closest match that I could find was on a Dutch 1873 Beaumont bayonet. I wonder if that is the same nut used on your sword (installed upside down).
https://content.easyliveauction.com/auctions/images_lots/D25E94ED10D7736022C9C89B4DE884E8_bam01/1100234263_PREVIEW.JPG
M ELEY
11th September 2023, 04:27 AM
Hmm, perhaps a varient of this model? (I know. Too short and only slightly similar, but blade shape, securing pins similar. I get a feeling your sword is more of a 'munitions grade', not being insulting, but a field sword, like the pioneer models)
https://www.wardaggers.com/BC311.htm
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