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tanaruz
29th August 2023, 10:13 AM
Hello friends,

Just arrived from Puerto Princesa, Palawan. A lumad (Palawan'on) kris.

OAL: 26.5 inches/ blade: 20.75 inches.

Enjoy and kind regards,

Yves

Note: the rope on the hilt (typical of Palawan'on and lumad style).

xasterix
29th August 2023, 11:12 AM
I believe it's a Lumad-appropriated Moro kris. Probably Maguindanao-made, late 1800s. I had one exactly like that, it was provenanced from a Maguindanao lineage. Your kris might have just passed hands, been traded, or migrated, hence its most recent status as Lumad-owned. But it's Moro, no question about it, even the dress. The true-blue Lumad-made kris doesn't have that build; it doesn't even have a gangya, and the dress is non-Moro.

Sajen
30th August 2023, 06:17 AM
The true-blue Lumad-made kris doesn't have that build; it doesn't even have a gangya, and the dress is non-Moro.

Hello Ray,

Do you mean such a "kris"?

Regards,
Detlef

xasterix
30th August 2023, 07:01 AM
Hello Ray,

Do you mean such a "kris"?

Regards,
Detlef

Halloo Detlef! Yes, that one exactly :D

Gavin Nugent
4th September 2023, 01:31 PM
I believe it's a Lumad-appropriated Moro kris. Probably Maguindanao-made, late 1800s. I had one exactly like that, it was provenanced from a Maguindanao lineage. Your kris might have just passed hands, been traded, or migrated, hence its most recent status as Lumad-owned. But it's Moro, no question about it, even the dress. The true-blue Lumad-made kris doesn't have that build; it doesn't even have a gangya, and the dress is non-Moro.

Is this sampir, if that's the right word to use in this context, isn't this style known to Jolo too?

Jerseyman
4th September 2023, 03:17 PM
I'm guessing this is also a Lumad kris?

I'll dig it out soon and post it with better pictures and dimensions.

Sajen
4th September 2023, 06:40 PM
I'm guessing this is also a Lumad kris?

Hello Philip,

short answer: yes!:)

Regards,
Detlef

kino
4th September 2023, 07:27 PM
Under Cato’s classification, a Maranao blade with a Lumad hilt.

Battara
5th September 2023, 01:03 AM
Not unusual to have a Moro blade in Lumad fittings.

Better pictures would be helpful.