View Full Version : Madura? What actually is it?
Gavin Nugent
8th June 2023, 08:22 AM
This passed a while ago. What is it?
I've seen these blade types before and I see others re-creating these blade types today.
Looks like Java blade is profile, looks like Madura hilt.
Dress unknown to me.
Any ideas?
Gav
Richard Furrer
8th June 2023, 03:54 PM
I can not answer your question, but may I see the area near the base of the blade? The pamor distortion looks very interesting.
Athanase
11th June 2023, 09:14 PM
For me the dress is Batak (or maybe Nias), the bronze work is very similar to piso halasan from Karo Batak.
Sajen
12th June 2023, 06:02 PM
Agree, the scabbard looks very Batak! :)
Gavin Nugent
12th June 2023, 10:17 PM
Thank you for your insights.
What can be learnt from the blade and hulu?
It seems many old Java blades settled in Sumatra and Malaysia.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=26093&highlight=majapahit
A. G. Maisey
12th June 2023, 10:40 PM
I think we're looking at Madura Gavin --- blade & hilt that is.
Jawa was a big exporter of weapon blades to all over SE Asia & as far west as Sri Langka & India, but it is probable that a lot of those supposedly Jawa blades actually came from Madura, and apart from that, Madura pandes moved all over SE Asia.
I have a Brunei keris that was supposedly the state execution keris dating from 1842, the pamor if seen in isolation would be identified as Madura, the keris itself is decidedly Brunei & surrounds, but details in the handwork might be taken as Madura.
Similar thing with some Peninsula keris I have seen.
Gavin Nugent
13th June 2023, 09:58 AM
Thank you Alan.
In particular, I have mostly seen Java trade or heirloom blades in Kedah and Perak dress where Malaysia is concerned, which often surprised me but given your Sri Lanka reference and the activity in the straits, it is no surprise.
Gav
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